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Alien Queen vs Hajime Hinata

I'd say Hajime for this one. The queen is strong, but Izuru was able to keep up with and completely overpower Mukuro, who can dodge bullets coming from mounted machine guns. As far as I'm aware, the queen hasn't even come close to that level.
 
The queen is shown to be pretty intelligent in Alien Vs Predator - calling the other xenomorphs in the area to free her from her chains. If she survived long enough to figure out Hajime's strategy she could probably overpower him.
 
I'm leaning towards Hajime on this one.

For those who are unaware, Hinata was the subject of an experiment designed to give him the talents of every student who ever went to Hope's Peak Academy (who are all virtually superhuman in their talents), including (but is not limited to):

Super High School Level Luck, Boxer, Martial Artist, Swordsman, Analyst, Soldier, Serial Killer, Gymnast, Detective, and Hope.

As a result, he has superhuman physical capabilities all around, has virtual precognition with his ability to analyze everything down to the last detail (and is superior to the analytical skills of Junko Enoshima, who concocted a plan that successfully plunged the entire world into despair by destabilizing governments, society, and military facilities with extremely limited planning out of boredom), has limited Probability Manipulation through his superhuman luck and gambling skills (i.e. a perfectly functional gun suddenly jammed once pointed at him despite being wielded by someone who also had extreme superhuman luck), and is stronger than the so called "strongest person in the world" who can trounce hundreds of similarly superhuman martial artists at once. In addition, he is also more skilled with weaponry and military tactics than the Ultimate Soldier, who went to war since she was a child and never received a wound despite fighting on the front lines in the face of barbed wire, gunfire from all directions, and minefields.

The Alien Queen is dangerous, but she doesn't have anything that can put someone like Hajime down.
 
@FanBoy6 Sorry, but I think that not enough to count. I have no problem on acid blood, but have contradition on others. Queen's has 8-C Ap and supersonic+ speed like Hajime but only has small building level+ on dura (which is her disadvantage in this fight). So I don't think it "great" like you said.

@DrMarzipan1441 I still count you vote at all, but I have little doubt about figure out strategy Hajime who is genius on several talents and can manipulate a little luck. But still fine to me.

And, thank you for Reppuzan to clearly explained answer.
 
Voting Alien Queen 7/10

Alien Queens have been shown to be able to easily pierce and rip Weyland droids in half (see Queen takes Bishop). Even drones can pierce Predator armour, imagine what a Queen can do...

In the AVP fight I think she was even able to survive the Predators bomb, although she could've just escaped already(?). Ignore this if so.

The Queen was also able to fight a giant exo-suit which is used for lifting heavy cargo.

Using swords or Martial arts is just suicide. The only thing that Hajime has that gives him a serious advantage is probability manipulation.
 
@Krukov

I don't see how engaging in close combat could be suicide when he can and will predict virtually everything the Queen will throw at him with a glance. He could also single-handedly stop Junko's rampage if he so wished, which included numerous giant mechas.

Another talent he has is Super High School Clairvoyant, which allows him to literally see the future as well.

As the epitome of talent himself, he is also superior to the Great Gozu, who can drop an entire floor of a building with a single strike.

I'm also confused about the Alien Queen's ratings. According to her page, her Building level rating comes from killing Predators with ease, but at the same time Yautja are rated as Large Building level for being able to withstand a Queen's attacks.

There needs to be some clarification here, since this is otherwise circular scaling.
 
Hajime is essentially the god-tier in the Danganronpa verse, not counting AI Junko within the Neo World Program. And it's a decently strong verse. I mean, we've got giant robots as big as houses, and characters like Great Gozu, who isn't even the strongest character officially, despite being able to take out a contrete floor a metre or so thick. Sakura is apparantly stronger than Gozu, and Kenshiro is even stronger. Also, Sakura wasn't able to beat Monokuma in a fair fight, but guess what? Mukuro was able to deal with over a hundred of them at once. When Mukuro and Izuru clashed, it wasn't even a fight; Izuru floored Mukuro in less than a second.

Not to mention that his probability manipulation is more than just a little thing; it's a massive thing. He's got more outrageous luck than Nagito, who could potentially make an entire building collapse with a single bullet (not even aimed, mind you), and that's not even the most outrageous thing that's happened to Nagito. Let's see, a chunk of a meteorite just "happened" to come in through the window of a plane mid-flight and killed a guy who was going to hijack the plane.

In all, I'd say the Alien Queen doesn't even stand a shadow of a chance here. Hajime's abilities and hax are simply far too much for it to cope with.
 
Reppuzan said:
@Krukov
I don't see how engaging in close combat could be suicide when he can and will predict virtually everything the Queen will throw at him with a glance. He could also single-handedly stop Junko's rampage if he so wished, which included numerous giant mechas. Another talent he has is Super High School Clairvoyant, which allows him to literally see the future as well.
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Alien Queens can read minds, as she can fully communicate with organisms telepathically when necessary. Even lesser Xenomorphs castes, such as Drones were stated to see/read minds of other organisms as well, but these castes aren't intelligent enough to understand them like the Alien Queen.

So, she can predict Hinata's attacks as well via telepathy.

Regarding close combat, well the Queen was shown to casually blitz and slaughtered an entire crew of low ranking, average Yautja. There was a showing of a typical Yautja who nearly defeated a being who could take on numerous giant mechas and entire armies of battle robots singlehandedly as well.


Reppuzan said:
@Krukov
As the epitome of talent himself, he is also superior to the Great Gozu, who can drop an entire floor of a building with a single strike.
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A strength comparison, huh? As for the Queen, she is definitely well beyond Yautja and Drones/Warriors in terms of strength, who can effortessly extert a force of 1 million Netwons, or roughly 102 tons of force with only one arm. I'm sure that's easily more than enough strength required to demolish an entire floor of a building.

After all, the Predalien (weaker than Queen) in AvP: 2010 was shown to have eventually brought down an entire pyramid and Weyland-Yutani facility by slamming her fists onto the ground several times, which is a vastly greater AOE than an entire floor of a building.

Reppuzan said:
@Krukov
I'm also confused about the Alien Queen's ratings. According to her page, her Building level rating comes from killing Predators with ease, but at the same time Yautja are rated as Large Building level for being able to withstand a Queen's attacks.

There needs to be some clarification here, since this is otherwise circular scaling.
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It has to do with context.

Yautja can withstand blunt attacks from the Alien Queen, as in being punched/kicked by the Queen. However, Yautja can be dispatched from the Queen's claws/tail blade/teeth (slash damage), since they seem to possess molecular-cutting properties. This allows the Queen and Xenomorphs in general to bypass Yautja durability.
 
I'll vote for the queen

For a Xeno she's somewhat intelligent at the end of Aliens(Alien 2 If you wanna call it that) Ripley, Noot, and Bishop are about to escape when suddenly the queen impales Bishop from the ceiling so that could cetch Hajime off guard could be a one shot though as I don't know Hajime's durability

The Queen also has acid blood which is what all xenomorphs have so ye

^more reasons above
 
Lasatar said:
I'd say Hajime for this one. The queen is strong, but Izuru was able to keep up with and completely overpower Mukuro, who can dodge bullets coming from mounted machine guns. As far as I'm aware, the queen hasn't even come close to that level.
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Evading futuristic mech exoskeleton suit fire


Right...

BTW, there are loads of similar feats done by lesser Xenos.
 
Lasatar said:
K, well, I'm sorry that I haven't read some random comic.
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Nah, you're totally fine, but my money is still on the bio-Satan you call the Alien Queen cause of her mind reading, facehugger carrying, extra limbs and very excellent at digging/burrowing through the ground n' sheit...
 
Xanxussama1010 said:
@FanBoy6 Sorry, but I think that not enough to count. I have no problem on acid blood, but have contradition on others. Queen's has 8-C Ap and supersonic+ speed like Hajime but only has small building level+ on dura (which is her disadvantage in this fight). So I don't think it "great" like you said.

@DrMarzipan1441 I still count you vote at all, but I have little doubt about figure out strategy Hajime who is genius on several talents and can manipulate a little luck. But still fine to me.

And, thank you for Reppuzan to clearly explained answer.
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But it doesn't matter anyway because the Queen has better advantages like Strength, Speed, and Durability
 
@Fanboy6

I'm worried about that rating.

The whole argument for Xeno Queen's AP is the fact that it penetrated Predator armor. But at the same time, Predator armor is rated the same way for tanking Xeno Queen's attacks. Which one is true?
 
If it's circular scaling, that means that there's no definitive proof that it's that level. Essentially, they might actually be many times weaker than the wiki lists them as.
 
Reppuzan said:
@Fanboy6
I'm worried about that rating.

The whole argument for Xeno Queen's AP is the fact that it penetrated Predator armor. But at the same time, Predator armor is rated the same way for tanking Xeno Queen's attacks. Which one is true?
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That is because the Queen can penetrate Yautja armor due to how incredibly keen her claws are, allowing her to bypass the armor and flesh of Yautja quite easily, who can naturally withstand a barrage of helicopter missiles.

Yautja can naturally withstand blunt attacks from the Queen, but not slash attacks.

I've edited this info into the Xenomorph's page a while back. However, that ******* "Antvasima" undid all my edits and locked the damn page, which I'm sure it's due to what he might consider a "masive upgrade."

I'm not gonna bother wasting my time typing up a blog to prove the Queen's potential.
 
@Seraphic

I highly recommend that you refrain from cussing out Antvasima. He's a bureaucrat and easily the hardest working member of the wiki. You're violating our Discussion Rules by actively insulting another member of the wiki. This is your first warning.

I'll look over the editing history to see what happened, but standard protocol states that Content Revision threads must be posted to evaluate the feats involved before making upgrades (as per our Editing Rules, which you're supposed to read).
 
@Seraphic

You do realize you're talking to an Admin, right?

If you're going to blatantly violate the discussion rules even after I warned you, then I'll have no choice but to block you. I'm sorry.
 
I think you underestimate Hajime so much. Catch off guard and one shot someone who casually stomp baseline building level characters, has virtual precognition with Ultimate Analysis and also extream lucky more than someone who is extream lucky. I highly doubt that can happen. You need to explain more how can she surpass this before I count your vote.

BTW, since Seraphic is blocked, so his vote is voided now.

Hajime:3 (Lasatar, Reppuzan, NickMatt94)

Queen:2 (DrMarzipan1441, Colonel Krukov)
 
@Nick

Well, he's been perma-blocked for being an utterly remorseless user who insulted our hardest working member and blatantly disregarding the Discussion Rules, so it's safe to say that he won't be back for further input.
 
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