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Pontos Vs Lucemon Satan Mode

No Larva? I dont know how thid Lucemon would fight without his larva self inside the ball, I mean, the monster is mindless from what I recall (digimon frontier) so Pontos has a very good chance of beating him.
 
PaChi2 said:
No Larva? I dont know how thid Lucemon would fight without his larva self inside the ball, I mean, the monster is mindless from what I recall (digimon frontier) so Pontos has a very good chance of beating him.
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Actually that was a weakness for that Lucemon only. Other Lucemon don't even bring up Larva anymore. Even then it isn't a weakness.
 
@PaChi2 As dragon said, Only frontier Lucemon has shown to need Larva. In all the other incarnations of Satan mode It depicts him as the real lucemon. (He's capable of speech and all actions are directed towards It without any mention of larva)
 
@Dragon and MugenRyu Thank you for your help. Next question is: is Pontos affected by Lucemon's sin?
 
So now for points. Not voting yet so here we go.

AP

-This is hard. Both are far superior to other 2-C's with Pontos edging out here.

Speed

-.....Doesn't even matter, it's equalized. Otherwise Lucemon blitzes

Hax

This is where things get tricky. As both have massive amounts of hax.

-Pontos' Existence Erasure is indeed powerful and could really harm this Lucemon as well. Does it go pass Typer 8?

-A hard thing to gauge is if Lucemon's Anti-Regen and Rebirth will work. Demon lords override the "Mid-Godly Regen" Anubismon grantes Digimon after they are completely erased by the Dark Area. Of course this only matters if his opponent has Mid-Godly regen. We know for sure it negates Low-Godly as it stopped UlforceVeedramon's regen as well.

-Both can seal each other here so that is also a possibility.

-Fate and Causality Manipulation are useless here.

-I guess Lucemon could make Pontos not evil...?

-Death Manipulation won't be important here.

-Lucemon could possibly copy Pontos's powers as well thanks to Beelzemon's abilities.

-That orb Lucemon has could negate Pontos' regular attacks as well.

-I dunno what Lucemon's karma would do here. I mean I guess it could seal Pontos...I guess....

-Both counteract each other's Reality Warping.

-Lucemon could turn Pontos to Data, allowing him to possibly make things easier for him.

-Lucemon could reflect Pontos' attacks.

-Could he put Pontos to sleep?

-Dead or Alive is a gamble.

-If he negates Pontos' regen, Lilithmon's Nazar Nail will really help here.

-If Lucemon has some Data around, he could absorb that to power himself up. This could take out Pontos if he can turn him into data.

-If he cancels out Pontos' Regen, Beelzemon's Chaos Blaster will help.

-If Lucemon can indeed turn Pontos into data, he can gain control of his 1's and 0's.

....Sigh.......It's too hot in my house for this....
 
@PaChi2 That's because I had to take the other Demon Lord's abilities into consideration, and turning Pontos into data + random effect kept popping up XD
 
To answer some of Dragon's points.

Reactive Evolution doesn't mean much since literally every Saint has it in Saint Seiya, so he is well accostumed to opponents with those abilities.

Lucemon wouldn't put Pontos to sleep.

Pontos also reflects Lucemon's attacks so it's moot.
 
@Matt Thanks for clearing that up.

Why can I now imagine Lucemon and Pontos is a type of energy tennis match...XD
 
@Matt

This is going to turn into another one of those threads isn't it.

Rookie Lucemon was able to put Huanglongmo to sleep and sealed him within the fabric of the Digital World despite the gap in power, Satan Mode's version should be far more powerful.

Lucemon has also reflected attacks back at their foes. It'll be a volley fest.
 
tbf, Pontos might have Concept Manipulation / Information Manipulation, and be an Abstract.

Guidebooks and Gigantomachia seem to treat the Primordials as being Abstracts.
 
The Titans might have Information Manipulation, who has means they can control data. Either that or they have Abstract Existence.
 
I'm quite unsatisfied with some SS ratings. 6th Sense users should be High 6-A, Titans are missing some key abilities and I'm unsure about Gold Saints. 3-A seems a lot more consistent than 3-B.
 
So assuming they have these abilities (tbh just post the scans here, then we can continue) what is your vote?
 
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