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Heaven Ascension DIO vs Novel Kars

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Two of the most well known jojo villains duke it out.

Fight takes place in an empty earth.

Win by death or ko.
 
HA DIO can stop time indefinitely, but The World Ultimate should counter for a good hour, since having the ability to stop time lets you stop time within the frozen time (Time stopception) and a solid hour will let Kars fight Dio within frozen time, which means he won't be able to erase Kars, but The World and The World Over Heaven are the same, any clash between them will cause The World Over Heaven and The World Ultimate to be paradoxed, but DIO will resist this, but Kars has several other ways to defeat DIO, and him having D4C could probably counter the paradox all together, and Kars could just steal TWOH, rendering DIO powerless and any of Kars' stands would be able to defeat DIO

Without stealing TWOH, Time Stop, D4C countering paradoxes, and his various stands would give Kars the win
 
Also, TWOH wouldn't be able to hurt Kars due to his Dura unless he uses Reality Overwrite, which requires time to be moving
 
cant kars steal the world over heaven? i think he can after all he steals stand just by understanding or something am i right? if im right kars can literally just take dios stand from him and win.
 
Couldn't novel Kars not stop a DIO who essentially just had more physical strength, a shittier version of TWOH, and future vision?

I don't really see what's making him stomp, here.
 
Because he had no way to put the other DIO down (had no hax like KQ, MIH or D4C yet and D4C wouldnt work because this DIO is a singularity), but in this case hed be able to steal TWOH and itd be like Jotaro but way worse, HA DIO is now ****** because he just handed Kars a more powerful TWOH.
 
Stealing TWOH requires at least a bit of exposure to it, no? It's not like he'd steal it the second the battle begins. Assuming Kars does not start the battle fully accelerated with MIHU, while he and DIO are on equal footing in terms of speed, TWOH was capable of intercepting Tusk Act 4 and GER, meaning it's not going to have too much trouble actually hitting Kars with reality overwrite before he can evolve The World Ultimate into The World Over Heaven Ultimate.
 
He just needs to see it (like Dune) or if DIO is unlucky he could just outright steal it like he did with KQ, and Kars can act in time stop due to Ultimate The Wold so DIO aint ******* him around by timestop+reality rewrite.
 
Isn't Heaven Ascencion like 2-C? Kars is only Low 2-C, so DIO has an advantage in AP

The rest, no idea. If Dune activates, DIO is done for, but if DIO "overwrites" Kars, Kars is the one being done for
 
Ratings mean nothing when you can steal someone's ability and make it better than what the user could've possibly dreamed of. And Dune wouldn't be doing much to HAD Kars steals his stand upon seeing it or just rips it outta him. Kars isn't 2A because he reset 1 universe right? But D4CUR creates universes? And remember with D4C those Kars all have the stands the original Kars has. Kars stomps with ease. and even if Dio did hit Kars as we know those bombs from KQ take you out of existence and Kars ate em so.
 
Plus, we saw what happened when someone attacked Kars with the stand. Plus Kars himself said Time is no problem for him.
 
Azathoth the Abyssal Idiot said:
Stealing TWOH requires at least a bit of exposure to it, no? It's not like he'd steal it the second the battle begins. Assuming Kars does not start the battle fully accelerated with MIHU, while he and DIO are on equal footing in terms of speed, TWOH was capable of intercepting Tusk Act 4 and GER, meaning it's not going to have too much trouble actually hitting Kars with reality overwrite before he can evolve The World Ultimate into The World Over Heaven Ultimate.
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Actually in the novel GER and Gio were killed by ultimate Dio who Kars is well above so the GER thing wont be a problem.
 
Kars wins without any chance from DIO whatsoever. The moment Ascended DIO uses The World over Heaven, he's through.
 
I too am going with Kars as well. His power copying would ruin DIO.


Can someone add this their profiles?
 
DIO stomps with 2-A Reality Overwrite. Kars's Made in Heaven Ultimate Requiem is not different from Enrico Pucci's Made in Heaven. which DIO treat it like completely like fodder. Let's not all ignore the fact that DIO's rival JoJo beat ************* Xeno: Goku who has about equal hax than Kars do.
 
But the thing is, Dio needs to his fists to touch the object he needs to overwrite. A weakness that Kars will obviously exploit. Plus, Kars can steal Stands.
 
Voting kars because stand stealing and resistance/immunity to time stop with The World ultimate, once he steals TWOH, and gains The World Over Heaven (which will be probably able to overwrite reality just by looking at it) the battle is over, HA DIO can't do nothing against his own stand but better and kars still has D4C and can throw another DIO at him, the only way i see kars losing is if he decides to trade punches with HA DIO and HA DIO uses this opportunity to erase kars from all realites so D4CU can't take another kars, but is unsure if BTD can or can't revert that
 
JohnCenaNation said:
DIO stomps with 2-A Reality Overwrite. Kars's Made in Heaven Ultimate Requiem is not different from Enrico Pucci's Made in Heaven. which DIO treat it like completely like fodder. Let's not all ignore the fact that DIO's rival JoJo beat ************* Xeno: Goku who has about equal hax than Kars do.
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If you think Xeno Goku has the same amount of hax or even the same type that Kars does you're mistaken.


Also, Kars would copy that stand right off rip if anything. And dunno why people think Kars can't copy TWOH lol. He copies stands that's his niche.
 
Nothing saying BTD can't reverse it and Kars himself has already stated that if he was to be erased from existence he'd simply find his way back.

Given his passive nature in the entirety of JJ i'd say this could be likely, but eitherway this match goes to Kars
 
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