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Dorugoramon vs Beerus

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Digimon vs Dragon Ball. I am now starting a Multi-Fiction Tournament. This is an exhibition match.

Rules are those who die are revived but are declared the loser. Fight as you mean to kill.

-Bloodlusted

-Dorugoramon is 3-A

-Speed Equalized for Beerus' sake.

FIGHT!!!

Dorugoramo : 2

Beerus : 0

Draw:
 
Beerus loses here. All Delete is a far superior existence erasure technique than Hakai. Since Beerus' hax is irrelevant here. This would be an CQC fight which Dorugoramon would win. Stats manipulation would be too much for Beerus (Or most DB characters for that matter).
 
Hakai is indeed, Beerus' most useful and powerful hax, but it isn't everything he has in his arsenal. Power Nullification, Sealing, Soul Destruction.

Dorugoramon has resistence to Hakai, but doesn't have Mid-Godly Regenerationn. Therefore, Beerus can negate durability and destroy his soul. If that doesn't work for some odd reason, then he could seal him away. Besides, Beerus can easily redirect most of the attacks thrown at him, or nullify them, just like he nullified a universe destroying energy against Goku.

I'm siding with Beerus at the moment. As I believe Dorugoramon can't do anything that would work against Beerus, of course, except for lowering his stats. But, that's one thing for him against the many things of Beerus.
 
Yes Beerus has Hakai'd a soul, but it was a soul without a physical body. He has never destroyed a sould directly from a body.
 
I'm going by what's stated and shown in his profile. Even though I know he didn't destroy a soul directly from a body, just like you said. But, that's just how things are...
 
Yeah I agree with Dragon. I don't think we should give Beerus Durability Negation when he's never really done it. We should just treat it as destroying souls.
 
At the time this was made Dorugoramon was only FTL.

Also how does he get erased?
 
Hakai was shown to erase Zamasu, who could tango with SS2 Post God Ki Goku

SSG Goku is physically universal, who is possibly weaker than the Goku Zamasu fought


Wouldn't logic follow that Beerus' Hakai works on *atleast* Universe level? (aka 3-A)

Though, I don't know what All-delete is, or how its supposedly better than Hakai.
 
Shouldn't it be specified that Beerus durability negation doesn't work on equal or stronger opponents? Or at least he doesn't have feats of doing so. Zamasu and Mashirito are both fodders compared to Beerus, so erasing them with hakai is not a good feat since Beerus could kill Zamasu with a poke
 
Joseph619 said:
Shouldn't it be specified that Beerus durability negation doesn't work on equal or stronger opponents? Or at least he doesn't have feats of doing so. Zamasu and Mashirito are both fodders compared to Beerus, so erasing them with hakai is not a good feat since Beerus could kill Zamasu with a poke
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Isn't the point of hax in series to defeat opponents who are either equals or stronger? Everytime I see fights between a hax character and non hax character, they say " Character B may be much stronger than Character A, but character A has better hax"

We don't know the full extent of his destruction technique, but outright stating it doesnt work on a stronger or equal opponent shouldnt be allowed.

And I brought up Zamasu because I wanted to show that Hakai was atleast Universe level, and, if its to be scaled atleast to Beerus' own power, its unquantifiably (Atleast Casually x100) Universe level (Aka the arale fight)
 
^Actually saying that a technique that worked on fodders would be equally effective on stronger beings without proof is NLF. Especially since in Dragon Ball hax doesn't seem to work on stronger opponents. The Zamasu that was killed by Beerus wasn't even remotely comparable in power to make the hax look impressive in context.
 
If an attack, by its very application, ignores durability, there's no reason to assume that it doesn't work on similarly strong or stronger opponents. That's how hax works. I don't see why Hakai would magically not work against characters comparable to Beerus just because he's only used it on fodder by comparison.

"Especially since in Dragon Ball hax doesn't seem to work on stronger opponents."

That comes from one statement in a secondary canon source that's repeatedly contradicted by the main canon. If ki > hax in DB, then Babidi couldn't have mind controlled Vegeta, Buu's Chocolate Beam wouldn't have affected Vegito, and Guldo's time stop wouldn't have froze Krillin and Gohan.
 
Well it was being contested in another thread that Hakai doesn't actually ignore durability, however I don't have any opinion on it.
 
Even if it didn't ignore durability, we should assume it's atleast as potent as Beerus' own energy, which is far above baseline universal.

I keep seeing here that All-Delete>Hakai


What makes it better? What can it do? Beyond it's hax-like properties, is the source behind it's power atleast hundreds of times universal?
 
The Everlasting said:
If ki > hax in DB, then Babidi couldn't have mind controlled Vegeta
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Not saying you're wrong but I think you may have something a bit confused here about Babadi.

Babadi's magic is not limited by KI at all actually. Babadi's mind control specifically targets a person's inner evil and uses that evil as a way to control them. This is how Babadi is able to control the likes of characters like Dabura despite the ridiculous power difference between them. Vegeta was controlled because of the evil/inner hate he has in his heart. To make the story short, it doesnt matter if your weaker or stronger than Babadi, he is able to control you despite the power difference as long as evil exists in your heart. If your pure-hearted like Goku then he cannot control you due to having no evil within you at all.

Again, not saying your wrong just addressing this point a bit.
 
@Professor That literally has no relevance at all. You're basically saying Babidi has durability negating hax. Which is the same thing Ever is saying.

The fact that as you said Babidi can use his powers against people ridiculously stronger than him proves that "AP > hax" isn't necessarily true and shouldn't always be assumed in Dragon Ball.

Which I'm sure would be an argument you and Joseph would agree heavily on if instead it was being used to assume Beerus would resist something cause "AP > hax in Dragon Ball".
 
Ohhhh kaaaayyy let me explain All Delete so we can get back on topic, and so that things don't get crazy. (Seriously this is a fight I've wanted since forever. Dragon God of Destruction vs Cat God of Destruction.)

All Delete erases the opponent completely from existence, this includes mind, body ans soul. However, All Delete also can flat out rewrite said person's existence as well and this is used by a simple casual slash from Omegamon X's Grey Sword. And Dorugoramon caught said blade with his teeth with no negative repercussions.
 
Well for one, yes, all delete is > Hakai. By like, a lot. Omegamon's feats with it blow Hakai out of the water. Also, at least hundreds of times universal? I could see dozens. Maybe. But hundreds? No. Even then, what does it have to do with hax?
 
Let's settle it like this. Even if Hakai=All Delete Dorugoramon resists it. Can we move on to their other techniques?
 
The real cal howard said:
Well for one, yes, all delete is > Hakai. By like, a lot. Omegamon's feats with it blow Hakai out of the water. Also, at least hundreds of times universal? I could see dozens. Maybe. But hundreds? No. Even then, what does it have to do with hax?
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Well, I had recently watched Arale vs SSB Goku, and, Casual Arale's mouth beam matched Goku's Kamehameha, and proceeded to charge one up x100

SSB Goku>>SSG Goku=Universal


And Beerus was about to nuke casually end Arale, and Hakai has shown to be his most hax move as of right now.

Thats why I'm asking if All delete has defeated opponents around that range of universal. If it has, then of course Hakai isnt much of a debating point.

Though, I still havent been told what All-delete can do and how it works, since Beerus' "Hakai" seems to be purely a power from his god of destruction status, as opposed to being just merely his own power(just my personal thoughts)
 
I explained what All Delete does above....

Also All-Delete literally killed a Low 2-C before so yeah as well as the entire universe and reset it.
 
All delete defeated Yggdrasil (Digimon). So, I'm pretty sure it could. And everything about Arale is not to be taken literally, especially her X100 move. Though, your last paragraph i agree with. It seems to be a GoD power.
 
The real cal howard said:
All delete defeated Yggdrasil (Digimon). So, I'm pretty sure it could. And everything about Arale is not to be taken literally, especially her X100 move. Though, your last paragraph i agree with. It seems to be a GoD power.
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Why can't arale be taken seriously? she does have a profile here, no?

And sorry I missed Dragon's post

Did All-delete kill the 2-C or 2-A Yggdrasil?

Well, honestly, regardless, Hakai is poorly understood, so, as it stands, I suppose it doesnt matter whether it was the 2-C or 2-A, we currently do not know the limits of Beerus' technique, we just know it can "Destroy anything", which is an NLF.

So, I'd recommend to any other debaters here that Hakai vs All delete is currently pointless unless we get a revelation about it's workings (for example, the source of said destructive power being of a tier 2 origin)
 
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