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Striking Strength help

BMHKain

BMHKain

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I've been asking myself this question for awhile now, and I wanted to end the debate once and for all:

(AKATSUKI BLITZKAMPF)

Blitztank uses an Energy Beam to attack Murakumo.

Starts at about 3:35.

This is around 40% overall damage. How much damage would it deal at max Striking Power?

(Wonderful World)

Duna has a Finish Skill called Thunder Spread.

Thunder Spread
This is Duna's Finish Skill: Thunder Spread, at it's most powerful...

Then this...

Thunder Spread End
This is the attacks end when affecting Ryuza; who has 800 health, which is a lot for the game's standards.

This is where the damage input is confirmed. It is 40%. What is the highest Striking Power it can effect?

Anyone willing to help? Thank you in advance.
 
  • Note that a character's striking strength is derived from his/her direct physical attacks, or feats of strength.
  • This means that striking strength would only apply to punches, kicks, throws, etc.
In this example, the attack was shown to involve none of these. It's just a blast of lightning.

I will search how to calculate the AP of that attack however.
 
Thank you, Lina. I thought it was Striking strength until now.

Good luck with the AP values... Oh, and can you do this for Blitztank and Thunder Spread (Duna's Finish Skill.) please? I'm currently preparing to do Wonderful World Feats at some point (0.89 final is almost complete... I only have a beta though...)...
 
First of, since you and Ant actually stated that this is an actual energy beam (of lightning), I am wondering if we can use the radiation equation for this.

  • Lightning has a temperature of around 30,000 kelvins
  • You can find the surface area of this blast using the formula for area of a cylinder and a hemisphere.
Stefan-Boltzmann Law calculates the radiation energy of a subject surface. All objects with temperature above absolute ZERO radiate energy.
Edit: I would like a link to Duna's Lighting Blast feat please. Preferbaly on Youtube so I can download it and analyze it or something.
 
I have a Youtube account, but my sound is dead, so I can't hear any tutorial of any kind. I'll need the PSVITA as an emergency protocol...
 
Bad news just became worse news: OBS is forcing HORRIBLE framerate on my recordings, and I can't seem to even start recordings with Wonderful World on it... Anybody wish to help me out?
 
Just explained my problems on your AKATSUKI BLITZKAMPF Blog, Lina. However, I've since became more desperate, and need help, quick. Are you willing?
 
What are you being so impatient for?

Anyways, I wouldn't get your hopes up too much. First, we don't even know if the lightning bolt Akatsuki/Murakumo fires could even be considered real lightning.

Can Duna manipulate real lightning, though? If she does, that qualifies for Massively Hypersonic+ attack speed and reactions for all of the characters.

Now, about Blitztank's beam attack:

  • The attack was not shown reflect off a mirror
  • The beam was never said to be stated as lightspeed anywhere in the game
  • The beam was never shown to refract in liquids, changing the shape of said light
  • The beam does not travel that much faster than Akatsuki's lightning attacks
It is probably not actual light.
 
I could've sworn you had a fever, Lina; or are you feeling at least somewhat better?

Anyways, I guess that means Blitztank is only as strong as the rest of the verse. But I'm currently trying to record something that I'm unable to do (Sorry that I'm an impatient person; I'm simply on a rush to Upload TWO feat videos; One for Thunder Spread, the other for (As of now...) 22O Chain Lightning when hit, and backdashed...). I'll just... Read the online guide for OBS Classic... When I get the chance...

I'm truly sorry for so much inconvenience after almost 24 Hours... It's pretty hectic on my behalf thought; & you're right; I have to take control at some point...

I'm too busy to do Blitztank's Profile though; so I guess it's your turn again? Don't worry, He's the last character to do on this verse; please don't get the both of us started towards the uber-inferior Sequel/Spinoff...

So sorry I've been procrastinating my job...
 
My cake is actually a lie...

What the link means is that I had to upload the info too early; before the primary 0.89 version. But, assuming what ainefill said is true, both Forms of Chain Lightning will be there...

Right from the beginning, Thunder Spread is used. Then the Blocking, Dodging, and Hitting of Chain Lightning, and finally, the EX variant, which I had some trouble with...

Chartette is slow you know...

I know the quality is trash, but it's the best I can do for this... Hope this helps, Lina; I even had to include the electrocution properties of EX Chain Lightning to prove it's true lightning if that even is the case...

The rest, is up to you. Good luck...! ^_^
 
Now it does seem that Duna uses a form of lightning, which does look like cloud to ground lightning (coming from above). Thus, it is safe to scalr everyone's movement speed from the speed of lightning.

Now, about Charlotte. She carries a pretty heavy sword, doesn't she? Let's see how fast she can move with that...
 
Note: this came from the Ver. 0.88 Guide, and is for WIP character Heathrod...

Õ╝ÀÚØ¡ÒüÖÒüÄÒéïÞéëõ¢ô ÒâÇÒââÒéÀÒâÑÒÇüþ®║õ©¡ÒâÇÒââÒéÀÒâÑÒÇüÕñܵ«ÁÒé©ÒâúÒâ│Òâùõ©ìÕÅ»

Translation: Tough too Physical Dash, Air Dash, Multi-Stage Jump Disabled.

Compared to Chartette:

Giant Wedge Air Dash, Multi-Stage Jump Disabled, Air guard can not attribute to slash more than attack

After comparing the two restrictions, and that Chartette is able to backdash, IF he'll ever be created, Heathrod may not have the same Dashing properties as the rest of the verse, making him SIGNIFIGANTLY slower.

I'll Test Chartette's Dashing abilities, and her attacks; preferably her finish skill when an opponent is idle, it will blow up the battlefield (Not really...), but that's for another time... But I'll do it, tomorrow maybe...

Hope the info helps for now. Chartette is actually pretty nifty with her zweihander.

BTW, I dun suppose you could measure the AP for Thunder Spread? You got the Youtube video now so, I'll let you help on my feat page for the verse when I make it in the future...
 
Correct, Lina; though Ant stated it was considered Magic; thus is Supernatural. Do you also have a Calc feat for Blitztank's Energy Blast? Just wondering...

Also, when you said Massively Hypersonic Speeds, I think you meant it in terms of Reaction Speeds; Speeds depend on the character themselves with Aiwhen, and Kiki being the fastest.

As for Chartette, she is UBER POWERFUL. Her Sword does a lot of damage with her Just Break (6HS) alone; two of them can even KO an opponent. She can also Blast Arenas when the opponent is idle, or even blast whole chunks of stone. I'll test her moveset, with the exception of Void Impact (Which I have had it with random Results...).

Also, Just in case:

Duna's Height: 158cm

Duna's Weight´╝Ü46kg

I'll record Chartette's abilities soon enough, but first I want to know the AP of both energy blast feats so I can at least try and make the Blitztank Profile (Unless you want to.)

BTW: When he becomes a character, Heathrod probably won't be able to Backdash, making him signifigantly slower...

That is all...
 
Are you working on the calcs for Duna, and Blitztank's energy blast? It would help with both profiles...
 
Let's just do the calcs for the Wonderful World verse first. Since all of the profiles seem to be there, and for the fact that Duna actually summons a lightning bolt from above, we can scale everyone's speed depending via comparing their movement speed for the lightning.

As for the Blitztank's energy blasts, we do not know the speed of those blasts, nor do we know how much those energy blasts could destroy, so we are not calculating those.

Also, do we have any cutscenes involving the Akatsuki Blitzkampf characters where they do any notable feats?
 
1. Dude; Only two profiles have been made for the verse so far. :/

I'll update when the verse when the final version of 0.89 releases...

2. Very well... Though I'm too busy with the beta and how it works, so you might want to make the Blitztank page yourself...

3. I think all the feats are mentioned in the story, or even in actual gameplay. I can name a couple:

A: The verse as a whole (Besides Blitztank) has survived mass Bloodloss from either Fritz or Murakumo, and did not get pale.

B: Sai has been living for over 50 years; The number of years ago after the past war, thanks to his sight, which can drain the life out of others, thus retaining his youth.

C: Albeit with Mycale possessing her, Marilyn Sue murdered her boss in Fu. In addition, by the end of her story, she became the De Facto Leader of Black Hand.

D: Mycale is capable of summoning Jörmungandr, who is an example of an Ouroboros; a kind of World Serpent.

I can think of others for AKATSUKI BLITZKAMPF, but I still wonder of Duna's Thunder Spread Ability... Is it possible to calc that? Just asking...

Talk to you later...
 
More Lying Bread.

Got Chartette's attacks analyzed, and they definitely are uber strong as promised. But Blitzers like Aiwhen and Kiki can easily abuse her slow speed.

Any calcs along with Duna's Thunder Spread?
 
Oi, you still there? Got some new info regarding Chartette, & I've yet to see a calc for Duna's Thunder Spread move. I'll make a Calc Blog regarding Wonderful World feats later...
 
BTW: Alongside Input I uploaded, I Will be updating current stats of both Duna, and Shake, With Eldio on the way...

Are you going to respond BTW?
 
Are you going to respond, Lina? I recently uploaded a demonstration video of Chartette on YouTube to calc alongside Duna's Thunder Spread. Are you going to do it or not?
 
We actually have a rule against setting all forms of electricity as the same speed as cloud to ground lightning, so I am not sure if Murakumo's lightning strike would work as actual lightning.

Duna's however, is a different story, as she can fire lightning from above.
 
Well, I personally am not interested in the Naruto Forums meself, but dang, that's not what I was thinking... I got to update the verse page, and eventually get to finding out how to do Claudette's Most Powerful Move Successfully... It'll take a long time just to do it, but when done right, let's just say it puts Terra Break to shame...

Wish me luck when I do it... o_^

BTW: When you say Charlotte, I think you mean Chartette, as her individual name states. Charlotte is merely a Typo.
 
BTW: I suppose doing calcs for Thunder Spread is against the rules for the same reasons as Blitztank's Ultimate as well? Also, last time I checked, the Lightning speed feat for your kinetics is actually for Reaction Speed only, but Whoa Nelson, Mach speeds? Are you sure you're not giving the verse TOO much credit? I'll be doing the following Feats in the Future:

  • Kiki's Gallops
  • Claudette's Uber Punch
  • Orphe's Windmill Speed
  • Welcome to Eldio's Genocide Carnival
and many others...

Crazy stuff. I'll do Chartette's Profile later...
 
Claudette's Uber Punch... DONE! More feats by Claudette to come! I know the two of us are kinda working together, but I'd rather calc on my own if possible. Perhaps you can tell me the ins and outs? I want to know how to use Avid as it is...

BTW: The HUGE Damage is dealt at the end of the vid when it's about to end... Only calc there please as Claudette's "Deadly Blow!" Finish skill can miss as a weakness...

Are you still there? I've not seen pics for your calcs, and former Mugenite Ampchu seems intrigued...

Because I won't be making an account, maybe you could introduce him the game so far when you get the chance; it's at least better than Vanguard Princess, at least, as a FM2K game... It just needs time to grow. It uses LilithSoft for Netplay, and Ver. 0.89 is almost done, so maybe you could introduce him that when it releases...

Just a thought... Please respond...
 
Any response? Also, you might want to tell Ampchu that Wonderful World IS a good game. You just have to get over the high difficulty factor, and practice use of powerful combo chains. Also, It's ever evolving, and is currently WIP.

Remember that, and please respond...
 
I'll do one more calc for the Wonderful world verse and one more for Akatsuki Blitzkampf (although I am not sure Murakumo's lightning is real lightning)

Also stop giving me all these information irrelevant to the character's stats when I haven't specificall asked for them. I need to find the AP and speed for the characters first before for other things can be added.

This is the only time I will tell you this. Next time, the series will just be dropped altogether. Kindly acknowledge.

  • The calc for the Wonderful world verse here on site or something for evaluation.
  • The rest of the Akatsuki Blitzkampf profiles will be created soon.
Those are the two main priorities, don't mention about anything else in regards to the verse.
 
I see. Well, this is preferably why I am willing to do the Wonderful World feats on my own; but I'll have to find some way to do the calcs myself. I currently have no prior experience in case someone is willing to train in such a scenario where all is dropped.

Do you know anyone else willing to help, or are you capable of helping on your own? It's not like I'll do any tradional calls like everyone else is though...

Just asking. Good luck on the other things you need to do, and you may respond when you're finished... 0_^
 
Very well then. I was just saying in case the project gets dropped. If that is the case, I'll need some tutorials as to how to calc on my own...

Anyways, I'll let you do your thing for now; even though I have many ideas for such calcs, but they will have to wait until, as stated, further notice or else.

As for Murakumo's Lightning, I will guess for now it looks like it in action, but probably won't be in reality. Should I find a video for you? Perhaps a walk through of Murakumo's Arcade Mode might do the trick, though you may object if you wish.

Good luck. I am just helping you out. That is all.
 
I think that I can find some of Murakumo's feat around on Youtube, although Murakumo's lightning being actual cloud-to-ground lightning or not is the main question.

I don't think it is though, unless it comes directly down from the sky.
 
Even if it is, it should be noted it is black lightning, thus should be considered a Variant.

...

I'll remove some proven feats in my blog...
 
Are your tasks done? I'd like to upload a video regarding each character's running speed besides Kiki's Gallop speeds, of course. I sense 0.89 may almost be done...
 
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