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Yuki Terumi vs Yhwach

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I think Susano'o for almost the same reasons as to Hakumen, though he doesn't have the Power of Order so this fight is harder for Terumi.

In Central Fiction, Susano'o can get souls from those who fights and crushes them so he maybe has that going for him.
 
Susano'o seems immune to a lot of Ywach's hax (does immnity to time manipulation mean immunity to future manipulation?). He also has better immortality (Ywach re-writes the futures, while Susano'o exists as long as hatred does). Also his durabiltity is possibly equal to Ywach's AP. So I'd give it to Susano'o high difficulty
 
yhwach stomps him due to the almighty as always he can't do anything to yhwach when its activated tyvm.

Whats up with all the bazblue wank lately
 
Sotomaru said:
yhwach stomps him due to the almighty as always he can't do anything to yhwach when its activated tyvm.
Whats up with all the bazblue wank lately
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what do you even mean wank....if you disagree then make a content revision but you keep saying he stomps from what i noticed because almighty GG in these threads

For my own vote I think conceptual Soul damage, being resistant to a lot of Yhwach's hax and can ressurect like Yhwach but Terumi can feed of Yhwach hate for the soul king (correct me on this part) and as Zelda pointed out this will be harder but I think Terumi wins with extreme difficulty considering he doesn't have Power of Order
 
I think we should wait if this truly is a stomp until we discuss the Boundary thing.

How it is right now, Terumi wins with quite a bit of difficulty due to being resistant to Yhwach's hax and his immortality is better then Yhwach's and can come back through self observation. It's not as easy for Hakumen for Terumi in this fight due to lacking the Power of Order, which is why he wins with quite a bit of difficulty.
 
Yes there is BlazBlue wank, but anyways moving on Yhwach wins with the Almighty, he can rewrite any future he dies and write futures where Terumi dies instead
 
DanteMichael said:
Yes there is BlazBlue wank, but anyways moving on Yhwach wins with the Almighty, he can rewrite any future he dies and write futures where Terumi dies instead
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If you have a problem with the stats first read the content revision threads and then write a content revision thread for a downgrade. If you are not willing to do so then you are making a claim with zero evidence. See this as a warning for both of you.
 
Sorry I didnt know the word 'wank' was considered, I just saw everyone else use the word so I thought I could :(

I wont do it again
 
I dont see how Terumi can counter the Almighty, his profile doesnt say anything about that. Immunity to time is NOT the same as immunity to future manipulation. Yhwach can just simply rewrite the future so he wins, I dont see how Terumi can stop him. I guess he can feed off Yhwach hate like everyone says, but how does he prevent his own future from being manipulated? Thats whats preventing Terumi from winning
 
Last time I checked, their timelines can't be tampered with. Which is why Hakumen can't erase certain characters when he slashes them (Which he can get rid of them by doing that)
 
But Yhwach only affects his future. Technically, since hes fighting Terumi, his future is also affected becuase its also Yhwachs'. So, Yhwach is not TECHNICALLY 'tampering with their timelines' only his, and bsecause their in his, they will be affected. Its contradictory to Yhwach's Almighty if he couldnt change his own future.
 
He's nigh immune to time manipulation, which includes all of time itself. Past, present and future. Future Manipultion is just a weaker Time manipulation that focuses only on the future.
 
Going with Yuki here, he can attack the soul, which makes Yhwach's dura useless. Also, if Susano'o is anything like Hakumen, he should be able to negate the effects of The Almighty.

Also, I know it may be a bit fallacious, but Hakumen already beat Yhawch. So if Yuki is anything like him, he should take this. I mean he is stated as being no-weaker than 100% Hakumen.

Yuki 8/10
 
Sir Ovens said:
Going with Yuki here, he can attack the soul, which makes Yhwach's dura useless. Also, if Susano'o is anything like Hakumen, he should be able to negate the effects of The Almighty.
Also, I know it may be a bit fallacious, but Hakumen already beat Yhawch. So if Yuki is anything like him, he should take this. I mean he is stated as being no-weaker than 100% Hakumen.

Yuki 8/10
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Hakumen and Susano'o are basically identical. The difference is that Hakumen has the Power of Order while Susano'o can exist outside of reality.
 
Existing out of reality? Doesn't that mean that Phonomena Intervention is useless on him?
 
Terumi can exist outside of reality with his ghost form (he has that in his abilities).

However, i'm not sure if inside the Susano'o Unit he can do that (though he is a soul in there).
 
yhwach's hate for the soul king? since when did yhwach ever state that he hates the soul king mind showing me a scan? i've seen the hakumen thread with i love it how everyone said time killer & gg

  • Empty Sky Form: Time Killer: Hakumen's trump card. Hakumen focuses his energy, then delivers a single blow: should it land, all of the time that the victim possesses, has possessed, or ever will possess, in this timeline and in all others, is immediately destroyed, effectively deleting a being from reality entirely.
yhwach sees hakumen using the ability in the future gg no effect

like jesus christ do you even know who yhwach is lmao
 
Sotomaru said:
yhwach's hate for the soul king? since when did yhwach ever state that he hates the soul king mind showing me a scan? i've seen the hakumen thread with i love it how everyone said time killer & gg
  • Empty Sky Form: Time Killer: Hakumen's trump card. Hakumen focuses his energy, then delivers a single blow: should it land, all of the time that the victim possesses, has possessed, or ever will possess, in this timeline and in all others, is immediately destroyed, effectively deleting a being from reality entirely.
yhwach sees hakumen using the ability in the future gg no effect

like jesus christ do you even know who yhwach is lmao
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Do you know who Hakumen is? He resistent to Time based powers....
 
Dragonmasterxyz said:
Sotomaru said:
yhwach's hate for the soul king? since when did yhwach ever state that he hates the soul king mind showing me a scan? i've seen the hakumen thread with i love it how everyone said time killer & gg
  • Empty Sky Form: Time Killer: Hakumen's trump card. Hakumen focuses his energy, then delivers a single blow: should it land, all of the time that the victim possesses, has possessed, or ever will possess, in this timeline and in all others, is immediately destroyed, effectively deleting a being from reality entirely.
yhwach sees hakumen using the ability in the future gg no effect

like jesus christ do you even know who yhwach is lmao
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Do you know who Hakumen is? He resistent to Time based powers....
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pretty sure that i saw nigh-immune to time manipulation yhwach's power: when he sees the ability it becomes useless with other words it wouldn't work.
 
How does he become immune to it? I can understand being aware of it, but immune? Just because he's aware of it doesn't mean he doesn't have to fear it. One hit from that thing and he's dead because it completely wiped away his time, which i don't think Yhwach can re-write. He can't re-write the future if his time is completely wiped out.

Also, this is Susano'o Terumi we're talking about. Not Hakumen.
 
Zeldasmash said:
How does he become immune to it? I can understand being aware of it, but immune? Just because he's aware of it doesn't mean he doesn't have to fear it. One hit from that thing and he's dead because it completely wiped away his time, which i don't think Yhwach can re-write. He can't re-write the future if his time is completely wiped out.
Also, this is Susano'o Terumi we're talking about. Not Hakumen.
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Almighty allows him to cancel any power he knows about.
 
Zeldasmash said:
How does he become immune to it? I can understand being aware of it, but immune? Just because he's aware of it doesn't mean he doesn't have to fear it. One hit from that thing and he's dead because it completely wiped away his time, which i don't think Yhwach can re-write. He can't re-write the future if his time is completely wiped out.
Also, this is Susano'o Terumi we're talking about. Not Hakumen.
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mate what don't you understand about "he'll become immune to it" dont you understand read yhwach's profile go to the almighty and look at.
 
Sotomaru said:
Fabtastic Glasses said:
Susano'o takes this with higher difficulty than Hakume
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yhwach takes them both at once.
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Then how come everyone came to the conclusion that Hakumen won the first time around and how Terumi is winning this one? Also, Time Immunity.
 
@Sotomaru

I'm not voting, but I thought I should add this.

It's fine to have your own opinion, but when others have repeatedly debunked your arguments and explained why The Almighty wouldn't work on Hakumen or Susanoo Terumi, then maybe you should try to listen a little instead of repeatedly saying that Yhwach would win because of "The Almighty makes him immune to X hax" even though it has been made clear that it wouldn't.
 
Reppuzan said:
@Sotomaru
I'm not voting, but I thought I should add this.

It's fine to have your own opinion, but when others have repeatedly debunked your arguments and explained why The Almighty wouldn't work on Hakumen or Susanoo Terumi, then maybe you should try to listen a little instead of repeatedly saying that Yhwach would win because of "The Almighty makes him immune to X hax" even though it has been made clear that it wouldn't.
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it has never been made clear that it wouldn't work please don't talk about yhwach if you don't understand his abilities yhwach sees hakumen using time killer in the future when he sees an ability he understands it and all abilities that he understands will become his ally and will be unable to harm him in any way. nobody has debunked me so far.
 
Zeldasmash said:
Sotomaru said:
Fabtastic Glasses said:
Susano'o takes this with higher difficulty than Hakume
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yhwach takes them both at once.
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Then how come everyone came to the conclusion that Hakumen won the first time around and how Terumi is winning this one? Also, Time Immunity.
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due to them not knowing the abilities of yhwach which was pretty clear to me.

"Leaning towards Hakumen, who can oneshot and permakill Yhwach with Time Killer"
 
You assume Yhwach's Almighty can help him. You assume the Almighty will beat everyone he fights...Which isn't true. You forget that EVERYONE has debunked your argument. Stop acting so condescending and argumentative. This would count as a warning from two staff members.
 
@Sotomaru

Everyone here knows how The Almighty works. It's literally the most prevalent and spammed hax in recent history. It relies on manipulating the future, which, as repeatedly stated, Terumi is immune to.

Anyways...

Tallying up the scores:

Terumi - 7 (Dragonmasterxyz, Sir Ovens, TISSG7Redgrave, Zeldasmash, Drellix, Monarch Laciel, CoreOfimBalance(COB)

Yhwach - 2 (Sotomaru and Belphegory)

This can be added now if there are no objections.
 
Alright, I'm adding these then.

I'm probably going to post on the Match Results thread for input, just in case.
 
Dragonmasterxyz said:
You assume Yhwach's Almighty can help him. You assume the Almighty will beat everyone he fights...Which isn't true. You forget that EVERYONE has debunked your argument. Stop acting so condescending and argumentative. This would count as a warning from two staff members.
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jesus christ i never said that the almighty will beat everyone yet again nobody has debunked me yhwach doesnt manipulate time to become immune to the ability so his nigh "nigh" time immunity wouldn't do anything about it now i will repeat myself yet another time stop acting as if you know what his abilities are.
 
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