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Aizen VS Raditz

UzumakiKurisu said:
Tarkatower said:
radditz nukes the area
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Pretty much this. Raditz is a casual moon buster, no one in Bleach(besides maybe Yhwach) has demonstrated anything near this.
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Raditz is not casual, he is moon level by powerscaling, same with Aizen. He tanked direct energy attack from Yhwach. But couldn't tank his hax.
 
How is Raditz even moon level with powerscaling? Dragonball has never gotten a legit moon level feat until Piccolo training Gohan arc, which came after the Raditz arc. So how does this powerscaling work exactly?
 
When raditz rekt both goku and piccolo and the fact vegeta is a planet buster and piccolo is high moon level making raditz small planet and nappa a higher version and vegeta planet level
 
Anime4Life2020 said:
How is Raditz even moon level with powerscaling? Dragonball has never gotten a legit moon level feat until Piccolo training Gohan arc, which came after the Raditz arc. So how does this powerscaling work exactly?
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Actually, Roshi did blow up the moon in dragon ball but it was conclude to be an outlier. Raditz powerscaling comes from Piccolo's moon feat, and since he didn't had any training between the aftermath, Raditz powerscales to him.
 
HokageMangaVox said:
Actually, Roshi did blow up the moon in dragon ball but it was conclude to be an outlier. Raditz powerscaling comes from Piccolo's moon feat, and since he didn't had any training between the aftermath, Raditz powerscales to him.
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That doesnt make sense, so if we went by this reasoning, this is basically saying Piccolo during the entire Raditz arc, who showcased feats no where near moon, was moon level?
 
No a little after raditz he blow up the moon but he didn't train much since he was looking out for Gohan so he was weaker then raditz
 
Huesito88 said:
No a little after raditz he blow up the moon but he didn't train much since he was looking out for Gohan so he was weaker then raditz
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Thats what im talking about rn. Piccolo didnt do any training from the time he and goku fought Raditz to the time he was looking out for Gohan and blew up the moon, so Piccolo was at the same level of power

In his fight with Raditz, piccolo showed feats that weren't remotely close to moon level even with his weighted clothes off yet a bit later when Gohan is running around as an ape he casually busted the moon with ease. How is that consistently legit?
 
While it is true Radditz can't counter Aizan's Hax

Aizen literally cannot hurt Radditz. And Radditz will eventually et pissed enough and start throwing massive AoE attacks to where Aizen couldn't escape or dodge
 
True but as I said if verse equalization isn't specified then azien has the versatility and kido and skill advantage with haxes if verses are equalized
 
Did Goku and Piccolo have AoE conrol by that time? And that still shouldnt be concrete enough otherwise King Piccolo and other stronger characters would be Moon Lvl and higher based off of Roshi's feat.
 
Anime4Life2020 said:
Did Goku and Piccolo have AoE conrol by that time? And that still shouldnt be concrete enough otherwise King Piccolo and other stronger characters would be Moon Lvl and higher based off of Roshi's feat.
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A charged attack from goku only did so much damage while a casual attack from piccolo destryed the moon
 
Decter01 said:
Anime4Life2020 said:
Did Goku and Piccolo have AoE conrol by that time? And that still shouldnt be concrete enough otherwise King Piccolo and other stronger characters would be Moon Lvl and higher based off of Roshi's feat.
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A charged attack from goku only did so much damage while a casual attack from piccolo destryed the moon
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So.....?
 
It been decided that anything in dragon ball isn't moon level since it would be a outliner the reason piccolo is moon level and raditz is small planet is because vegeta could bust the planet which fills in the gaps
 
Huesito88 said:
It been decided that anything in dragon ball isn't moon level since it would be a outliner the reason piccolo is moon level and raditz is small planet is because vegeta could bust the planet which fills in the gaps
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What does Vegeta busting a planet have to do with them when he's stronger than them, especially Raditz?
 
Like I said in my second comment in this thread "when raditz rekt both goku and piccolo and the fact vegeta is a planet buster and piccolo is high moon level making raditz small planet and nappa a higher version and vegeta planet level" fits nicely doesn't it also since goku base was stronger then nappa then goku base is a higher level of small planet level
 
Decter01 said:
While it is true Radditz can't counter Aizan's Hax
Aizen literally cannot hurt Radditz. And Radditz will eventually et pissed enough and start throwing massive AoE attacks to where Aizen couldn't escape or dodge
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Hax bypass durability, have you read the page.
 
Anime4Life2020 said:
HokageMangaVox said:
Decter01 said:
Where did I said ALL hax?
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Hax bypass durability, have you read the page.
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You didnt specify what specific hax or anything, just said Hax as in a more in general perspective, which made me assume you were refering to Hax period.
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Then don't jump to conclusions, and assume things without any knowledge, if you don't know something just ask.
 
I don't see any way Raditz can win. Aizen has moon level power which could even be small planet level. He is sub-relativistic+ so he's fast enough to fight Raditz and even surpass him. Aizen is also very smart and skilled in combat. He has mastered all 4 forms of soul reaper combat and would use all of them to **** Raditz up. Aizen can probably win this without Kyoka suigetsu thanks to equal power between the two but Aizen having an edge in every other section
 
Honestly im undecided because of Aizens KS but at the same time i ask myself, "How much force does it take to break a zanpakto?" and also "Can Raditz exert enough of that force to pull off this feat?" because say Raditz did get close would would Aizens kido match Raditz martial arts or would Raditz break Aizens Zanpakto by grabbing it

That character has my vote if this can be explained
 
DatBoyNorbit said:
Honestly im undecided because of Aizens KS but at the same time i ask myself, "How much force does it take to break a zanpakto?" and also "Can Raditz exert enough of that force to pull off this feat?" because say Raditz did get close would would Aizens kido match Raditz martial arts or would Raditz break Aizens Zanpakto by grabbing it

That character has my vote if this can be explained
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Aizen's spiritual pressure was strong enough to break through the barrier between soul society and soul palace and then bring down the soul palace. His reiatsu should be powerful to augment his attacks to hurt Raditz. And even if Raditz grabs his sword, Aizen can use kurohitsugi to kill Raditz. And even hypothetically if Raditz gets lucky and break Kyoka. Aizen can repair it by pouring his reiatsu into the broken sword. Add all this onto the fact that Aizen is smarter and most likely faster than Raditz and Aizen takes this fight
 
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