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Strongest character Tokiha Misa can defeat?

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Or at least make a draw.

Tokiha Misa - devil from Notch.

I have a problem with searching enemies for her.

What do you think, guys? Do you know a good match for her?
 
Hm... standard hax for tier 6 or so, and have boundless inner world... Perhap Medaka Kurokami would do? Though she's tier 8, her hax are in the mid-to-high-tier in this (something about turn everything to nothing). In some version she could beat her.
 
Devils in Notch exist while can think.

For destroing devils from Notch you must eradicate information about them from Paradise of Illusion.

Paradise of Illusion = at least 6D world.

So, if you want to destroy Misa - you must have 6D information/reality manipulations.
 
Perhap Medaka Kurokami would do? Though she's tier 8, her hax are in the mid-to-high-tier in this (something about turn everything to nothing). In some version she could beat her.

Nah. Devils from Notch can erase anyone from Medaka by one thought.
 
I just realize, Paradise of Illusion ~= Gensokyo :D.

If it Touhou though, she could climb to a high tier, not before the God though.
 
God from Touhou. I mean you really doesn't want to meet people that's the goddess of magic, exist before all human, or see the entire universe as just a small quantum string in the vast fabric of dimension.
 
or see the entire universe as just a small quantum string in the vast fabric of dimension.

But it's not enough for defeating devils from Notch.
 
You do realize that would make them at least a 6D character right?

Seeing universes as string? No, it's not a 6D.

And this is what they is:

3-A also not a 6D.
 
...Yeah, got a bit heat up. The character is still obscure though, so i don't think they would be 3-A for long. In myth though, he's at the highest rank in buddhism, having the attribute of Infinite Light and creating a land that's beyond our own world (and nearly the same as the Paradise of Illusion, except it's actual Paradise).

...Well, we don't know what they could do in Touhou though, so I'm going to skip that. If you want a draw though, maybe Reimu Hakurei would be good
 
Durability: At least Island level, Small Country level with barriers, Fantasy Nature makes her untouchable to most attacks, making her difficult to kill | Potentially Planet level to Solar System level with barriers

Devils have erased souls, which are able to create galactic-size dimensions, with easy.
 
^That world is deep inside human heart though, so that would be a different feat against creating the material world (Aside from the fact that's like saying "I created an imaginary world on my own, so I'm a tier 2", even if that world could influence the real). So unless the human there is someone that could resist soul manipulation to a high degree already, that's as most a mild feat.

And there's someone that could manipulate soul to a ridiculously high degree in Touhou verse (high enough to managed an entire realm), and yet even she can't manipulate someone who have drink an Elixir that would remove them from the cycle, and make even soul invincible. And the FN ability is like a step-up from even that.

...Which is a topic of NLF. So if you don't really want that... The Paradise of Illusion sound like the Dream World, the world that contain every living being's dream. So how about Doremy Sweet? (she is a bit of a unknown as well though)
 
That world is deep inside human heart though

Nah.

It's plane above material multiverse.

And those personal dimensions can exist even without their creators.
 
The Paradise of Illusion sound like the Dream World, the world that contain every living being's dream. So how about Doremy Sweet? (she is a bit of a unknown as well though)

Paradise of Illusion has a constant connection with every universe within multiverse.

Plus, there is a lot of sub-spaces (personal dimensions) within Paradise of Illusion.

Connection with everything within multiverse = 5D.

Sub-spaces need at least one additional dimension = 5D + 1 = 6D.

So, Paradise of Illusion = at least 6D plane.
 
Touhou also have the concept of parallel world though, so the Dream World could work just like that. (could, because there's still not enough infomation about that world)

Before I said anything though... what happen if her physical body is killed?
 
what happen if her physical body is killed?

Nothing. She will get another body later.
 
so the Dream World could work just like that

Proof, please.
 
^Didn't you see the bracket? No proof for that yet, just my personal theory though, if you want to hear.
 
And how did she get another body?

Even usual souls in Notch possesses other beings bodies with easy.
 
just my personal theory though, if you want to hear

Theory without any proof = nothing.
 
So what happen if there's no body left?

Then she simply will erase an enemy soul/consciousness.

Just for information - devils need a body for interaction with material objects.
 
A6colute said:
just my personal theory though, if you want to hear

Theory without any proof = nothing.
There's the statement that all living being connect to this world on the deepest level, and since the concept of parallel universe exist, that mean there's a possibility that the world "all" also including those in parallel. The one that travel in there is stated that they can go anywhere and become anything at all, and that would also include the parallel since it exist. (not to mention the saying mean it have the same point as PoI)

No direct statement about that it's true though, and that's why I said it's just a theory. And I don't want to dwell into that as much.
 
A6colute said:
So what happen if there's no body left?

Then she simply will erase an enemy soul/consciousness.
By throwing them into the abyss, right? And who did she does it with?
 
By throwing them into the abyss, right?

Not necessary.

Devils eradicate souls from material multiverse and Paradise of Illusion. But if soul strong enough, then she is able to continue her existence within worlds which beyond material multiverse and Paradise of Illusion. Those worlds = abyss.

P.S. There are many worlds in abyss, because every soul go to personal abyssal world. With one exception though.
 
And unless they could make it out, or resist being pulled in in the first place, then this would count as Incapacitated.

That's why asking who does she do it with and who she can't do it in-verse is importance. Otherwise I would have to throw tier 2 into the roster.
 
That's why asking who does she do it with and who she can't do it in-verse is importance.

Devils cannot erase other devils (but still able to send other devils to the abyss).

Devils can erase usual souls almost instant.
 
Otherwise I would have to throw tier 2 into the roster.

I'm not sure, that there is tier 2 character, who is able to completely destroy a devil.
 
Oops, tier 1. Tier 2 would be too great for her to delete though. And if there's no body left, that would count as a win (suppose that the PoI is 6D, which mean it's being able to connect to all the parallel universe, in all of the point in time, which culmulate into a phase space.)
 
A6colute said:
That's why asking who does she do it with and who she can't do it in-verse is importance.

Devils cannot erase other devils (but still able to send other devils to the abyss).

Devils can erase usual souls almost instant.
And does the usual soul have any resistance to soul manipulation?
 
And does the usual soul have any resistance to soul manipulation?

I don't know. This VN is not about fightings.

And if there's no body left, that would count as a wi

Nah. It's a draw.
 
^I would consider it as a "no" then. So, someone that have a high resistence to soul manipulation and/or be able to travel between verse...should at least deal with that I guess? In Touhou, the one that could do that canonically are Dragon God (unknown), Hecate (unknown) and Yukari (slightly less, but still unknown) and anyone above their rank.

If you count incapacitated though, that would be a win, since she can't do anything else to the opponent while they already destroy her body. More over if they could transverse to PoI, the tier 2 would have enough ability to destroy the Devil.
 
So, someone that have a high resistence to soul manipulation and/or be able to travel between verse...should at least deal with that I guess?

Resistance from erasing from 6D-plane? Yes.

Usual soul resistance? No.

If you count incapacitated though, that would be a win, since she can't do anything else to the opponent while they already destroy her body.

And opponent also cannot do anything with her true form.

Again, her physical body is only a vessel. It's not her true form.
 
^In PoI, even the opponent get stronger though. And if they can transverse then that would be useless.

Is her true form visible in PoI?
 
I find it very hard to believe that this person is not tier 1, let alone 10-A. Anyway, without joking in the slightest, Adam Conover had an attack that you need mid-godly Regen to come back from. So there's that. Ryukama can vouch for me on that.
 
Speed: Normal Human

Speedblitz there.

Then can that true form be destroy?

Yes. If you are able to erase information from 6D-plane.
 
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