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Geralt of Rivia VS Venom

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What Venom does is A) Gets Frozen, and B) Get's Incapped by flames.

Like... did you read the profile before making the match?
 
Mate. Mid regen doesn't matter when he just gets feckin frozen to death and massively incapped
 
Wait how does Freezing incap Venom? A symbiot that can travel through space easily?
 
Brock still needs oxygen, and unlike Carnage, hasn't shown adaptations to just get Self-Sustenance I think.

So, cool, symbiote is alive, Brock still bites it.

Also again, Fire and Sonics massively incap him, add to that regular Geralt bullshit.
 
@Spookyshadow

Using any sign at all since half of them defeat Venom instantly and the ones that don't slow down Venom long enough for Geralt to realize he needs to use a sign that does kill or incap Venom
 
Igni still exists, same shit.

TL;DR Venom doesn't have enough shit to counter Geralt and has MASSIVE weaknesses he can exploit, not to mention, doesn't he have the AP advantage here?

So as stated before Schnee, stomp
 
So let me get this straight, Geralt has literally one win condition so it's a stomp automatically?

Really?
 
Zark2099 said:
Brock still needs oxygen, and unlike Carnage, hasn't shown adaptations to just get Self-Sustenance I think.

So, cool, symbiote is alive, Brock still bites it.

Also again, Fire and Sonics massively incap him, add to that regular Geralt bullshit.
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Mid regen covers both. Especially since freezing alone doesn't kill and Venom can easily break out.

Venom counters literally everything Geralt has, except for mind manipulation. And Geralt has zero knowledge any of this is Venoms weakness

So no, two weaknesses doesn't make a stomp
 
I don't think Mid regen can just give you Self-Sustenance... also, depends on the effectiveness of freeze ig

Venom doesn't counter the paralysis, OR the burning OR the High 7-C forcefield OR apparent sonics OR the AP advantage. Wonder how many seconds does Geralt to use like, 1 of his 5 spells, realizing how effective it is, and just spamming it?

So yes, this is a stomp either way, what he outclasses in, is not relevant
 
It does by default, as it repairs the lungs allowing them to restore the oxygen breathing, this isn't the case if you can suffocate long term like space though Geralt doesn't have anything that suffocates for a long enough enough time.

Paralysis doesn't bypass regen, and it's debatable if you can even paralyze a cellular organism to begin with

Venom Can't beat the 1.5x AP advantage? Really? Even though physically hitting Venom would get your body taken over by the symbiote and it doesn't beat his regen either? Geralts minute AP advantage is a non factor.

Even if Geralt kills Brock the Symbiote itself can still fight, which Geralt does not know, said Symbiote by itself is stronger then Spiderman, meaning Harming Geralt is not a problem.

So no, once again, a couple win conditions doesn't make a fight a stomp.
 
That has to be shown to be relevant within the verse to even be used like that, by this logic everyone with Mid regen can be listed as having a form of Self-Sustenance.

Paralysis does lead to incap, and the time KO'd basically Geralt can try out 50 different things.

Literally never happens in the comics in a relevant enough regard, or we'd list possession for him, not to mention this wrecks Eddie EVEN if it were to happen

The profile is of Brock, not the symbiote, him dying or living matters. If symbiote mattered then you're describing the stomp the other way because Geralt can never kill the symbiote, even with fire.

There are no "couple of win conditions" when literally the second or third hit completely shitstomps Venom while he has no win conditions over a High 7-C shield.
 
I think you missed a part of my post.

"This isn't the case if you can suffocate long term like space"

Self Sustanence grants this, Mid regen does not. So no, it does not grant self sustenance. My logic explicitly says regen does not grant it.

Paralysis does not lead to incap. Paralysis would have to last an entire day in order for it to incapacitate, it does not last that long.

No, the profile is of Brock with the Symbiote, Brock dying dies not mean an automatically loss of the Symbiote is still alive, we do this with characters attached to one another like Ichigo Kurosaki (Pre-Timeskip)'s Hollow forms as well as the true forms of other characters, Geralt has to kill the Symbiote to win. Simple as that.

And no, the Symbiote can in fact be killed with fire, other Symbiote such as Riot literally died this way.

The High 7C Shield isn't up forever, wasn't this your entire argument on why Geralt lost to Spiderman?

Geralt has to kill both, plain and simple.
 
I don't get how Geralt can lose to Spiderman but not only win against someone far stronger, but apparently stomp them to the point it isn't a match.
 
Schnee One said:
I don't get how Geralt can lose to Spiderman but not only win against someone far stronger, but apparently stomp them to the point it isn't a match.
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Because Peter had acess to his equipment, the equipment he used once during a comic before you was born. And because people think survive in space gives you resistance to cold or ice manip
 
Some characters that are constantly stomping or getting stomped and are suddently tossed against someone's favorite characters are memes already
 
Those true forms don't have their own profiles for each incarnatio. There are keys for Brock without the Venom symbiote, it's a Brock profile first and foremost. So no, Brock dying ends the match.

Paralysis does lead to him finding 50 ways to KO him while Venom just stays there like a tool.

Oh yeah, forgot about the shield timey thingey.

Also like, Venom is not stronger than Spider-Man if you account for snowballing, especially in the key that was being used for Spidey.
 
M3X said:
Because Peter had acess to his equipment, the equipment he used once during a comic before you was born. And because people think survive in space gives you resistance to cold or ice manip
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I didn't know Schnee was born after 2015 and that the Dan Slott run till 2018 where he constantly had the Mk. 4 suit on him for 40 issues was actually just one gigantic issue. And I definitely didn't know that surviving in an absolute zero atmosphere where you freeze to death in seconds didn't give a resist to freezing.

Preferably be salty somewhere else please? Because right now the misinformation you're spreading can be caught by me, so, counterproductive for you, ain't it?
 
Then his file's wording needs to be fixed

"To the point where the Symbiote, even without a host, can fight on par with him"

Because this implies that a weakened Symbiote is still able to hurt him. Then again Venom has always been portrayed as physically stronger, Venom only loses through Peter exploring its weakness to sound and fire.

It being Brock profile changes nothing, the Symbiote is still a part of them and can act on its own, the profiles themselves are seperated because the characters and their abilities themselves are not the same.

50? You mean 2?
 
Because Peter had acess to his equipment, the equipment he used once during a comic before you was born. And because people think survive in space gives you resistance to cold or ice manip

It does

Space freezes things, go into space and don't freeze and your resistant.
 
Technically the symbiote is able to fight comparably to some extent, just insanely berserk.

Honestly our Venom profile more crap than I remember, I may have to revise it entirely.

It being Brock's profile means that Brock needs to survive in order for his wincons to function

The 2 super effective ones that basically leaves him a shrieking mess on the floor? Yes.
 
AngeronTheSkyHighAnger said:
Tho water doesn't freeze in space vacuum it boils
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It does both actually, the side facing the sun boils while the side facing away freezes iirc. A tamer version can be found on super high places on Earth, where in the sun, you can get a heatstroke and frostbite at the same time.
 
Not just comparable, even able to physically overpower it.

Already went over that the Symbiote can still fight.

So only two out of the dozens that either don't work or involve a Geralt having to physically fight Venom which is a suicide sentence.

If you agree he only has 2 then I guess this can continue.

So much headache could have been solved if we simply mentioned Venoms Profile was faulty, then you could have let this match go and removed it when the profile was revised
 
Schnee One said:
It does, that's literally common sense.

Space freezes things, go into space and don't freeze and your resistant.
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No it doesn't. I even created a thread for it, DT disagreed with that ideia
 
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