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High 8-C Tournament (Round 1, Match 2) Fanbeemon VS The Collector

Fanbeemon has almost everything over her

Flight, paralysis, calling for help, AP etc.

Best bee destroys.
 
Does Fanbeemon have an answer to the Collector's Transmutation?

Anyone hit by Hung Ling Bullet Shower in which the bullets will turn those hit into countless bubbles

She's 5.4 Tons while the Digimon dude is 7.9 Tons
 
Dodge do to the flight and being a very small, hard to hit target.


He has something similar in his paralysis anyway, which is on everything.
 
What's his range though? This?

  • Melee Range, A few meters with projectiles
If so, he'll have to get close since she'll summon Xiao Si Ta Ya, Li Ang, Wang Cai, Sai Ba Si Di An, Hong Ling, and Head-Donkey to fight alongside her

She has Head-Donkey to pretty much just go float in the air and move around since he can fly
 
He can match her with his own summons, who also have paralysis on every move as they are also Fanbeemon.
 
They all don't have a 100% of paralyzing though

  • All attacks have a chance to Paralyze his opponent
While any of her of bullets will turn them into bubbles

She has Xiao Si Ta Ya to make a Sand Demon so they can all get inside it

Can he paralyze people within sand

Also has Wang Cai to make a Forcefield around them
 
He has a far better chance at avoiding it though due to his size and massive mobility advantage. He also has an AP edge so his shots do more.

Also would the bubble thing even work on Digital beings? That is what Digimon are.
 
How does that make his size a disadvantage? If it doesn't hit him, then it won't explode. Is isn't likely to hit him and she will be dealing with similar stuff from him and a group of Fanbeemon who can paralyze on hit. She eventually gets paralysised or dies due to the AP difference (Fan has a plus next to his tier and you can check the calc on Guilmon's page.)
 
  • Melee Range, A few meters with projectiles
He has to get closer to deal damage since he doesn't have much range; projectiles ain't doing anything when she can protect herself with Forcefield, just run away by flying, or literally using a Portal to go to another floor (in-verse Verse has floors as places so she can go to other ones)

She'll just bait him to come to her then she'll make it explode via making it explode around him, she doesn't necessarily need to hit him with the bullets when the explosion will still turn him into bubbles

Are you sure he can even summon those so called summons in-battle?

  • Can call multiple other Fanbeemon to aid him
Literally only explanation is calling other Fanbeemons to aid him, not literally summoning them unless if there's a video of him summoning them, but he's currently fighting the Collector in Central Park, New York City where there is no Fanbeemons in real life
 
It is Summoning not just calling, so why wouldn't it work?

If she runs away, then she will lose since she has fled from the fight.

The bullets are not likely to hit him due to his small size and any hit can paralyze. They explode on contact.

Unless she can attack through her own forcefield, then it is a temporary fix at best, a time waster at worst.
 
Wang Cai's barriers may be troublesome for Fanbeemon, and if any of the Collector's summons land a hit, it's a big advantage.

The issue is that there's only 1 of each of Collector's summons. Meanwhile, there can be a whole squad of Fanbeemons that spam electric attacks. Even if some of them get hit, there'll still be more left
 
  • It is Summoning not just calling, so why wouldn't it work?
Show a video of Fanbeemon actually summoning them. His profile states 'call multiple other Fanbeemon to aid him', nothing about literally summoning them. I could call others to help me out with my phone, but does the mean I can literally summon them? No

Literally his profile says this

"88 Call: Uses its antennae to summon crowds of its allies."

  • If she runs away, then she will lose since she has fled from the fight.
She won't lose just because she fled from the fight, she can come back if she wants to anyways since they can make Portals

Removing the opponent from the battlefield for at least one week (BFR)

  • The bullets are not likely to hit him due to his small size and any hit can paralyze. They explode on contact.
Her bullets doesn't need to literally hit him, just them exploding and Fanbeemon getting affected will turn him into a bubble

  • Any hit can paralyze
That's a damn lie

"All attacks have a chance to Paralyze his opponent"

"Royal Commando: A passive ability that gives Fanbeemon a 10% chance of paralyzing the target when attacking."
 
Y'all aren't even talking about how his Range is lacking

Literally

  • Melee Range, A few meters with projectiles
His projectiles will be nullified by the projectiles or the Collector can just wander around with her carriage then he'll be forced to come fight her CQC while she can just outrange him if she wants to
 
The ability is literally Summoning man, you are just grasping at straws here.

Any hit can paralyze though, all his hits have a chance to paralyze, that is how his ability works in game.

He will be able to close the gap due to his horde of Bees and dodging skill.

Why would he give chase if she wanders anyway?
 
  • The ability is literally Summoning man, you are just grasping at straws here.
https://digimon.fandom.com/wiki/FanBeemo

Hachi Hachi Call (88 Call)[5]: Reddens its antennae and contacts its allies, summoning a huge crowd of its comrades.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/TigerVespamo

88 Call: Uses its antennae to summon crowds of its allies.

You seriously think real life Central Park, New York City has literal Fanbeemons wandering around everywhere where he can call them to help him out

  • Any hit can paralyze though, all his hits have a chance to paralyze, that is how his ability works in game.
Won't do shit if any of his hits will never affect her due to her Forcefield

  • He will be able to close the gap due to his horde of Bees and dodging skill.
Close the gap of their distance? You're forgetting he not only has to be aware of the Collector but 6 other summons that she has at her disposal. What dodging skill? He's literally almost the same size as a human - https://youtu.be/2RIZf2HsiU0?t=9

  • Why would he give chase if she wanders anyway?
How would you expect him to damage her in any way? He has shit Range "Melee Range, A few meters with projectiles" His projectiles ain't doing shit due to forcefield or just dodging them by riding on her carriage

His Flight is countered since the Collector can just ride her horse

His paralysis is countered since he has to hit her for it to even work, and it literally has a 10% chance of working

His range is garbage so he'll need to get close to actually harm her

His projectiles won't do shit since forcefield

His summonings can't literally summon other Fanbeemons in New York, Central Park

AP of 7.9 won't matter if there's over 7 people who are at the very least 5.4 Tons who can hurt you more than he can hurt them due to numbers advantage

This dude isn't even that small, he's literally near the size of a human or bigger
 
Well. Depending on the word used. If it says it calls them. I would be more in line to agree. But it specifically uses the word summons
 
Why would he need to call them with his antennae then?

That's like literally calling your friends over then the summoning is them coming over to your house and in this case there's no other Fanbeemons except the one the Collector is fighting
 
Because that's the requirement. It doesn't matter that it says He needs an antennae to do it. It still specified it Summons them. So it's Summoning
 
https://dmowiki.com/FanBeemo

"Calls its worker bee friends and attacks the opponent together"

He calls them to help him out if anything, that's limited summoning since they need to be around to help him out after he asks them to help him

That's even implying that Fanbeemons exist in real life

If 2 humans in this wiki fight together and ask the bystanders for help and they help out, would that be summoning?
 
He will have just as many himself though, Vespamon (who has literally the same abilitiy) even describes it as summoning crowds ON YOUR DEBUNK.

Masters isn't really mainline canon, so why are you using it? It is an MMO adaptation. Compare his size in an actual game or the anime.

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That is definitely a bit smaller and more compact then your questionable example.

He can dodge her stuff just as well as she can his though so it is a moot point.

If she runs away he has no reason to give chase since he already won. If you are trying to fight someone and they run away, you would not gain much from chasing them.
 
  • He will have just as many himself though, Vespamon (who has literally the same abilitiy) even describes it as summoning crowds ON YOUR DEBUNK.
TigerVespamon is an evolution of Fanbeemon, of course the ability would have an upgrade, if what you're saying is even true

Either way Fanbeemon can't literally summon other Fanbeemons in real life / New York, Central Park

And are you even sure he has 88 Call, video doesn't show shit except the other 3 in his profile for his moves - https://youtu.be/3o89_18Tw1Y?t=10

  • Masters isn't really mainline canon, so why are you using it? It is an MMO adaptation. Compare his size in an actual game or the anime. That is definitely a bit smaller and more compact then your questionable example. He can dodge her stuff just as well as she can his though so it is a moot point.
Only ones that showed where you can see his size was DMO, not my fault I don't play Digimon.

Fanbeemon isn't easily gonna be dodging her bullet showers then since the Collector's explosion can cover a few ships in size with just 1 barrage. You seriously think Fanbeemon's small size can let him run away that much meters within a few second

  • If she runs away he has no reason to give chase since he already won. If you are trying to fight someone and they run away, you would not gain much from chasing them.
Lol no, you don't lose just by running away for a few minutes

Standard Battle Assumptions - Victory Conditions: Death of the opponent, removing the opponent from the battlefield for at least one week (BFR), knocking the opponent out for at least one hour, or incapacitating the opponent by putting him in a state in which he can not harm the other fighter(s) for over a day, are to be assumed as victory conditions.


You still aren't even answering his lack of ability to even affect the Collector due to his shit range and most of his shit getting countered except for his AP, which is 7.9 in compraison to the Collector's 5.4. Either way, the Collector has 6 others that are 5.4 Tons so he's gonna get done in more than the Collector and her summons will

Meanwhile, the Collector can literally turn him into bubbles the moment he's hit
 
It is literally the same ability, when digimon evolve they don't change their existing abilities except for the power, they just gain new ones.

If she is only running away for a few minutes. Why run away at all? It just gives Beemon time to Summon more allies (If you want to remove that summoning this isn't that place to do it, that would be a separate thread.)

She isn't likely to hit him due to his size and number advantage and a carriage is a big target for him to shoot at and paralyze (he can paralyze stuffed animals and machinery so a carriage won't be an issue.)

Most of her stuff will get countered do to numbers and paralysis. Her summons get bonked, Her carriage just wastes time, and her forcefield doesn't mean much since it just stall the inevitable.

These aren't people. He can definitely outrun 2 ships worth of AOE in that time due to his speed (you can check it on his profile.) Even if we equalized it to her, He should still be able to outrun the AOE as he is just as fast as it and has time to react. If he summons more beemon, then it was all for naught anyway.

So in conclusion 88 Call counters her everything and she eventually gets Paralyzed and her summons and Carrage are useless.
 
  • It is literally the same ability, when digimon evolve they don't change their existing abilities except for the power, they just gain new ones.
Lol no, his so called Summoning isn't even literal Summoning that can help him out in this match-up as I just explained what it does and his Wiki backs it up and either way he doesn't have it - https://youtu.be/3o89_18Tw1Y?t=10

  • If she is only running away for a few minutes. Why run away at all? It just gives Beemon time to Summon more allies (If you want to remove that summoning this isn't that place to do it, that would be a separate thread.)
Why would not she run away? Would you be willing to get yourself even more injured? That's in case Fanbeemon can even harm her enough to force her to take the Portal, which he probably can't since he's getting outnumbered badly. The Collector isn't a bot, she's not stupid. I'm not having Fanbeemon's Summoning removed, that's not even gonna be useful in this match-up since there's no other Fanbeemons for him to call for backup, making any points involving his Summoning moot and shouldn't be taken into account in this match-up

  • She isn't likely to hit him due to his size and number advantage and a carriage is a big target for him to shoot at and paralyze (he can paralyze stuffed animals and machinery so a carriage won't be an issue.)
His Summoning is useless in this match-up as I pointed above. You're forgetting that not only can the carriage literally just move around to dodge those hits, they can also be covered with Forcefield Creation so that's not affecting them at all

  • Most of her stuff will get countered do to numbers and paralysis. Her summons get bonked, Her carriage just wastes time, and her forcefield doesn't mean much since it just stall the inevitable.
His Summoning is useless in this match-up as I pointed above. Paralysis is also moot since it not only has 10% chance of happening, it needs to hit, and it's not hitting due to Forcefield Creation or literally just dodging anything that comes from him since he's small as **** so the Collector and co will have an easier time to dodge them.

  • These aren't people. He can definitely outrun 2 ships worth of AOE in that time due to his speed (you can check it on his profile.) Even if we equalized it to her, He should still be able to outrun the AOE as he is just as fast as it and has time to react. If he summons more beemon, then it was all for naught anyway.
No, speed is equalized, read the OP. His Summoning is useless in this match-up as I pointed above. He's not outrunning the AoE.

  • So in conclusion 88 Call counters her everything and she eventually gets Paralyzed and her summons and Carrage are useless.
In conclusion, his Summoning is useless in this match-up as I pointed above and so is everything that he has
 
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