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The Twelve Heavenly Stars

They need 2 keys, Base and Level 1000, their base needs a downgrade.

They aren't on the level of Level 1000 on their own, their profiles say as much, but not an exact number by which they are lower. We can get an exact number from Libra's Astraea:


This was the new form of the automatic tracking and slaughter maid—Super Libra. Or perhaps Astra-Libra would be better? Super Libra converted her right arm into a weapon, aimed her three railguns and two anti-fortress cannons—a total of five cannons—at the rocky mountain, and locked on. "Maximum output… All cannons locked on one target… Fire." For an instant, my vision turned white. Three rays of light and two artillery shells went in straight lines towards the pitiful mountain. —A pillar of fire rose towards the sky and everything was incinerated. "………" Ah, hmm. This is dangerously good. If Blutgang was struck by this, it would possibly be in danger. Even if it was not completely destroyed in one hit, it would be penetrated catastrophically. I thought it could probably evaporate Levia in one hit.

Well, of course. After all, this was three barrages of The Right Scale (Zubenelgenubi), supplemented by two more artillery strikes. In game terms, this would be considered five combo attacks.

I wondered if Karkinos could endure it. The power level was terrifying. All my companions stared at me with a stunned look. I averted my eyes.
~ Chapter 70​
Normal Libra only has 1 of The Right Scale, in this form she has 2 more + 2 anti-fortress cannons, so this is 4x the firepower of Base Libra, and Ruphas wonders if Karkinos of the Crab can endure it, Karkinos is said to be as durable as Ruphas: For some reason i can't quote this, this is from chapter 58:

"Looking at Karkinos's stats, I almost became astonished from his needlessly high defensive values. In this game, vitality served as a stat to determine whether a one would be able to withstand the enemy's attack or not. In other words, it was indicative of one's defence. High vitality = tough body = hard; that was how it was back in the game. In any event, Karkinos was the one with the greatest defensive ability back in the 12 Heavenly Stars, and these values were reflective of that. If vitality was the only stat in question, it would even be comparable to me who was a level 1000 player who had endlessly doped myself."

Anyway we can say that Base Libra is around 4x weaker than Level 1000 Ruphas Mafahl who is Low 5-B or 1214 Exatons, so Base Libra is 303 Exatons, this is Moon level+, All The Heavenly Stars should be Moon level+, Libra should be Small Planet level with Astraea and as Level 1000's The Heavenly Stars should be Small Planet level.

Mars and Virgo
Mars is said to have a punching power of 1.2 tons

[Bonus] Mars
Arm Strength: barely but can lift 1 tonne (1,000 kg)

Leg Strength: Mach 3 (3,705 km/h)

Grip Strength: 600 kg

Sword Attack Power: can leave a crack on the ground up to 50m away

Punch Power: 1.2 tonne (1,200 kg)
~ Chapter 122​
This isn't referring to dc or ap, just how hard Mars can punch, so he shouldn't be 8-C.

Level 201-300 are stated to be able to take on battalions alone:

Level 201 ― 300
Alone, they can be a threat to a kingdom. A walking strategic-level weapon. If they run, they would be able to move faster than the speed of sound. Their arcane magic would be able to burn down an entire forest. Their sword attacks would create fissures in the land itself. If these individuals were not in an insanely exaggerated world like this series, it would not be strange for them to serve the role of the last boss. With their strength, they would be able to fight against Earth's large army of battalions alone. (But not against nuclear weapons!) Eh? There's also an Earthling commando who can cause a third world war to erupt as if they were a one-man army? ……… Is that person really human?
~ Chapter 137​
The implication here is that they can take on the Earth's army alone but nukes are too much, based on that i think it's reasonable to say they could take on tanks by themselves, so i think they can be 9-A.

Ruphas
Level 3000's are stated by the author to be able to at least destroy a solar system:

Level 3000
The stage where nothing makes sense anymore.

If they feel like it, they can probably destroy a solar system at the very least. (Half-assed statement)

The Goddess: "That's right… This is a dream (runs away from reality)."
~ Chapter 137​
Level 3000 Ruphas should be Solar System level.
 
"They can probably destroy a solar system (half-assed statement)"

Hm.... This really is not the type of claim that supports such a big upgrade. So I'm against it.
 
I agree with this, though maybe the ground crack thing can be calced when I can be bothered to do it, that sounds above 9-A.
 
I just took it as the author not thinking about exact values but at the very least he thinks they can destroy a solar system.

It fits with progression of power, Level 1000's destroy small planets, level 1500's destroying countless planets and causing cosmic explosions then we get this statement.

We had an entire power scale given to us here by the author.

That said considering how this series is literally power scaling itself and does all this ridiculous stuff and it's unquestionable where they characters are (not counting Alovenas, not touching that), i am certain either way this claim will be proven in the future.

So really don't care if that's accepted for now.
 
Matthew Schroeder said:
"They can probably destroy a solar system (half-assed statement)"
Hm.... This really is not the type of claim that supports such a big upgrade. So I'm against it.
It makes sense though, the level system is absurdly exponential, and at level 1500 they were casually destroying multiple planets. 1500 levels on top of that and with the statement solar system level makes sense to me.
 
Even if it makes sense, a statement of "probably" that's defined as being "half-assed" in the text itself makes it dubious. At best I see a Possibly.
 
The author has said other stuff in this vein when it comes to ppl like Ruphas.

Ie when the author was giving values for basically all the characters hence the stuff about Mars i posted above, they basically said Ruphas's values are too big so they weren't gonna bother trying to analyze it.

So this is just the author not trying to think about how powerful exactly Level 3000's are cause the numbers and stuff are too big.

Anyway a possibly for now is fine with me, though as i said considering how feats and stuff are treated in this series, i am sure we will get proof of this.
 
This looks fine, and im also fine with 'possibly' Solar system level since for now we don't have real feats.
 
I think possibly is fine though personally "likely" is better as we know just how exponentially high the levels go and her being 5-B makes no sense.
 
Speaking of that, the mentions of being comparable to Level Ruphas should be removed from Benetnash profile, that fight was pis, or more accurately probably Ruphas weakness coming into play again, being stupidly nice to her comrades and hesitating to do harm them.

She knew Benet wanted to face her at her max, but she never had any intention of actually killing her permanently like Benet wanted.

I mean Level 1000's can give Ruphas problems due to her weakness while she is Level 1500, while Level 1000 Benet whom her Level 1000 self is equal to, can easily stomp such opponents.

@Rocker Didn't know if the crack thing could even be calc, but besides that and what i said above, we don't have anything to go for Level 300's ap feats, just some wall level feats which is a massive lowball since even like Level 38 Sei who is comparable to like a Level 70, has wall level feats.
 
So could we use the manga for him then? the manga I believe had some level 300's fight so maybe we could gain info on their power from there.
 
Looking over, this is alright.

Not sure about the Solar System rating but I can see a possibly or likely to be used if you want to take a tad safe but that's just how I could see it done from just looking at this.
 
Just gonna go with possibly, and downgrade Mars and Virgo, if any feats show up in the manga, can deal with that later.

Need to create some new profiles as well.
 
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