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This is Cell Saga Goku. Both fight at their peaks, and I believe I have to equalize speed.
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Axl vs Goku
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Axl has a speed advantage and is comparable to Goku in DC, though he is nowhere as haxed as X or Zero (or skilled for that matter) I think he can win this 6/10 times.
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^ThisReppuzan said:
Here's my take
Aside from the above, this fights close, as Axl is high-end 4-C with Goku presumably in the same area, but may be lower since Axl is XTJ+ to Goku's XTJ ultimately straightforward breaking down each catagory other than speed, power, dura and
Powers and Abilities: Axl wins this. Goku's only abilities are energy-based attacks (which Axl can do), stat amps via Kaioken (which Axl can also do), and flight (which Axl can also do, albeit not as well). Axl has all of that and more along with invisibility, elemental attacks, and MUCH more via various morphs. While GOku has destructo disk, Axl can amp his dura far beyond it's normal levels to counter and has invisibility. Failing those he could just pull a RoboCop and shoot the Disk out of Mid-air
Skills and Battle Intelligence: Goku takes this. While I believe Goku's fighting skills are overrated and both X or Zero are both much more skilled than he is due to being his decisive superior in every way, the same can't really be said for Axl. He's likely a very experienced fighter, and he's certainly highly skilled, but he's also reckless with a tendency to drag fights out for fun. While Goku can be both of these at times, his vulnerability here is not nearly as crippling. Goku and Axl are roughly even at a ranged battle, but I think Goku has more skill in close combat.
Stamina: Axl takes this by a lot. Axl has more stamina (possibly infinite vs high superhuman), Axl has more ammo than Goku does Ki, and Axl can survive without an arm and keep fighting due to being a reploid, while Goku would be incapped by something like that.
Axl has better abilities, which ultimately gives him the upper hand in a straight up fight as despite Goku's superior skills, Axl has more stamina and I think he's gonna take this in a LONG battle of atrition.
My vote goes to Axl high-difficulty.
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Pretty good matchup you came up with Cal.
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Thanks, man. I wanted to do a Megaman vs DB matchup, but I knew Geo, X, Zero, and EXE would stomp those that are on their level. This was the best one I could think of. Hearing you say that (for lack of a better word) is reassuring.
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No problem pal.The real cal howard said:
Tho TBH if the fight took place in Cyberspace I actually think X or Zero would solo even current Dragon Ball due to time-space shenanigans and instant activated intangibility, amongst other cheap abilities, but let's not get into that now.
Back on topic, counting votes
Axl: 2 (Aguilla seemed to vote for Axl to me, not sure about Reppu's vote)
Goku: 0
Inconclusive: 1
BruceTheBatman said:
My vote goes to Axl high-difficulty.
This^
Meaning my vote goes to Axl.
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Axl: 3
Goku: 0
Goku: 0
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What's your vote for Cal?
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I don't vote on my own threads, my friend.
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Well, even if your vote doesn't count what are your bets on, pal?
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We should count out Goku.
Close match but i am leaning towards Goku high-difficulty. He has techniques such as Instant transmission, Destructo disk and afterimages which will give him the advantage in H2H combat and if Goku realizes his stamina is decreasing he will go for the kill just like he did with Cell.
Close match but i am leaning towards Goku high-difficulty. He has techniques such as Instant transmission, Destructo disk and afterimages which will give him the advantage in H2H combat and if Goku realizes his stamina is decreasing he will go for the kill just like he did with Cell.
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Can't even say that much, as it would seem as if I were rigging this in someone's favor.BruceTheBatman said:
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Axl can teleport too. Axl can amp his durability much like how dd boosts Gokus ap Afterimages won't mean much when tons of characters, including Sigma, X, Zero, and others, all of whom he has fought or at least sparred with, use Afterimages, meaning that that's nothing new. He won't get the chance to charge it for over 2 seconds, Axl is not an idiot and will shoot Goku the second he tries charging anything.AllanSaiyan said:
Even if Goku did charge it the tactic would be a poor idea as he can't sense a robot who's invisible whenever he feels like it, therefore he can't teleport so Axl could just do that. Failing that he could counter the kamehameha with a similar technique or weapon, failing that he could amp his durability. Failing that he could just teleport away.
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Good points, Well then my vote goes for the Axl since I see no other way that Goku could win.BruceTheBatman said:
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Speaking of which, another thing is that while both do need to charge for their strongest moves, Axl doesn't need to charge nearly as long a period, and can still fight while charging. Goku cannot.
It's also worth noting his charged attacks do not deplete his stamina as Gokus do.
It's also worth noting his charged attacks do not deplete his stamina as Gokus do.
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While I do not even agree with Cell Saga Gokus stats, I think with these stats it'd be a kickass fight.
Aside from abilities, stamina and skills these two are very well matched.
Aside from abilities, stamina and skills these two are very well matched.
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Gokus best chance IMO would be disarming Axl. His ranged abilities are far more varied than that but that's his main fighting method.
Even then though it's a bit shaky as Axl still has some ranged powers, and Goku is primarily a hand to hand fighter regardless.
Even then though it's a bit shaky as Axl still has some ranged powers, and Goku is primarily a hand to hand fighter regardless.
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Agreed.BruceTheBatman said:
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Axl: 5
Goku: 0
Goku: 0
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Axl, for the reasons above. His powers and abilities and stamina will lend him a (high-dif) win.
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Axl: 6 Goku: 0
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I'm tired so I can't really give thorough reasoning, however I think Axl takes this due to his sheer versatility advantage alone.
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Kk. It seems we all agree that Axl wins this im a great match Axl: 7 Goku: 0
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