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How are Naruto and Sasuke not lightspeed yet?

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Because no one has found a solid feat for them to scale to or above Lightspeed. There is always a problem with a calc, scaling or whatever that causes problems for different people.

We might see something solid in Baruto tho considering more strong guys keep showing up but until then (or when someone finds something sound for them to scale to) they remain the way they are rated.
 
They probably are lightspeed or FTL to be honest. We just need '''undeniable proof''' first. That's really the only thing missing.
 
Well for one.

On Madara's page they gave him light speed attack via light fang which Naruto dodged (im pretty sure everyone should know this already)

Delta (Boruto) has her light beam attack listed on her page, which again Naruto dodged.

And going off of this wiki Nagato, Killer B, and Itachi are comparable in speed with Sosp Naruto, Sasuke, Madara, AND EIGHT GATE MIGHT GUY.

I'm sorry but is this a joke?
 
I see what CJ means though, there's certainly more evidence in favor of FTL naruto than their is for some other verses which are FTL.
 
Honestly though, They would have been FTL long ago if people weren't in denial that Naruto dodged the laser as opposed to him dodging the head swing.
 
He probably believe that Naruto and Etc are FTL because Low Tier characters are listed as Relativistic

However, that Relativistic feat is under revisions, I believe
 
there are like, 6 or so rel+ (or higher) speed feats out there. doding light fang, cutting that meteor in like, 1 second, dodging delta's lasers like, 3 times over (maybe 4 i think), and then out running said laser.
 
Lorenzo.r.2nd said:
there are like, 6 or so rel+ (or higher) speed feats out there. doding light fang, cutting that meteor in like, 1 second, dodging delta's lasers like, 3 times over (maybe 4 i think), and then out running said laser.
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Dodging Light Fang was rejected

Cutting meteor was calced before and it wasn't Rel, dunno from where that 1 second timeframe appeared

Dodging Delta's laser needs to be calced, IF said laser is real by our standards
 
I dont think it matters. The people here rejected it. Doesnt make it less of naruto dodging a light speed attack.

I calced that meteor cutting feat myself, and got 3.28c. Im the one that found that feat in the first place. And the 1 second timeframe is obvious is where it came from. Go rewatch or reread the scene if u want to.

In fiction, if a laser is called a laser, then its a laser. Doenst matter what we think here. If its light speed, then its light speed. All characters call it beams or laser, all the time, at least once in each sentence they refer to it. It just hasnt been accepted cuz the wiki is too strict and too perfect.

Plus, we still have might guy running fast enough to bend space, which is already a Rel+ feat, i believe
 
Lorenzo.r.2nd said:
I dont think it matters. The people here rejected it. Doesnt make it less of naruto dodging a light speed attack.
I calced that meteor cutting feat myself, and got 3.28c. Im the one that found that feat in the first place. And the 1 second timeframe is obvious is where it came from. Go rewatch or reread the scene if u want to.

In fiction, if a laser is called a laser, then its a laser. Doenst matter what we think here. If its light speed, then its light speed. All characters call it beams or laser, all the time, at least once in each sentence they refer to it. It just hasnt been accepted cuz the wiki is too strict and too perfect.

Plus, we still have might guy running fast enough to bend space, which is already a Rel+ feat, i believe
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If they rejected, Naruto's not going to be FTL here, so...it's important, I guess lol

I don't need to rewatch nothing, if you think we can use 1 s as timeframe go ahead, make the calc and see if they will accept

Again, this may work outside the wiki, but here a laser needs to be a real laser to move at LS, and we have standards for that

Yes, bending space with speed could be Rel+, so if you think it should be, guess what ? Make a CRT, because for no it's not accepted
 
But then again, Kawaki outpaced it. Could be an outlier, could just be not real light.

The fact that Delta's light comes from a purely technological source quite clearly supports it being real though.
 
@dante

Good luck rejecting an author written and made databook lmaooooo

I made it. Two people already said it was fine for now. Gotta get more input tho.

Author intent is a thing. Ever heard of that before? Its when an author makes something into a thing cuz he feels like it, and we cant do shit about it. Its pretty damn neat. Also pretty damn simple.

Idk what isnt accepted here. What has not been accepted? That he didnt run? Cuz he did run. That matter didnt change shape by bending inward towards him cuz of the mass he created his speed? Cuz that also happened. So tell me, what wasnt accepted? Im just not getting it tbh
 
I don't know why it wasn't accepted, Naruto is just meh in this site, I don't follow many discussions

Can you link me your calc ?
 
JohnHendrix212 said:
But then again, Kawaki outpaced it. Could be an outlier, could just be not real light.
The fact that Delta's light comes from a purely technological source quite clearly supports it being real though.
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outlier for sure. the boruto manga is full of those. we have boruto killing naruto's shadow clone in one of them lol

and yeah. like, its quite obvious tbh
 
@Celestal Judge

I'm sorry but is this a joke?


It's not a joke. Dodging a lightspeed attack doesn't instently make you FTL. Calcs are needed because many factors like this thing called 'distance!.
 
LordGriffin1000 said:
@Celestal Judge
I'm sorry but is this a joke?


It's not a joke. Dodging a lightspeed attack doesn't instently make you FTL. Calcs are needed because many factors like this thing called 'distance!.
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Not only does the guidebook say Naruto characters were nearing lightspeed after the five kage summit, not only did Naruto dodge two lightspeed attacks, but to say that Killer B and Might Guy 8 gates is complete Bias and this wiki knows it.

What more does one need to say, well thats probably light speed.

As soon as Asta dodged one light beam attack he was made lightspeed yet Naruto needs 40 damn feats, a guidebook, scans, and probably Morgan Freeman himself saying that he is light speed.

Get out of here with that bull.
 
@Celestial Judge

Lol none of that makes them lightspeed unless you get the light dodging feats calced. We can't just hand out lightspeed to anyone who dodges something that is stated to be light do to a number of things ranging from outliers, hyperbole, calculations being needed in order to get a proper rating since just dodging a light attack doesn't mean the are lightspeed or higher.

Your the one who needs to get out of here with that bull, you sound like a fanboy right now, complaining that one verse got something and then claim bias when your verse doesn't get something. Why don't you go ask someone to actually calc the light dodging stuff. Make a thread about why they truly should be lightspeed or above and cut the bull. I tired of hearing this bs bias talk. Actuall go and do somthing about it.
 
LordGriffin1000 said:
@Celestial Judge
Lol none of that makes them lightspeed unless you get the light dodging feats calced. We can't just hand out lightspeed to anyone who dodges something that is stated to be light do to a number of things ranging from outliers, hyperbole, calculations being needed in order to get a proper rating since just dodging a light attack doesn't mean the are lightspeed or higher.

Your the one who needs to get out of here with that bull, you sound like a fanboy right now, complaining that one verse got something and then claim bias when your verse doesn't get something. Why don't you go ask someone to actually calc the light dodging stuff. Make a thread about why they truly should be lightspeed or above and cut the bull. I tired of hearing this bs bias talk. Actuall go and do somthing about it.
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Is questioning the wik not doing sommething about it. And fanboying lol? I literally had to do this same thing until Fairy Tail characters got their right speed you can look at my history.

Black Clover came out and after his first fight got light speed reactions. One fight. The attack was said to be light magic. So he got the feat.

Not only did Naruto did this on two occasians. But the wiki is literally making it self look unreliable by saying Killer B and 8 Gate Might Guy's Speed are the exact same. This is common sense. There is no calc for Black Clover btw.

And you sound like you are aggravated. If you are unfollow the thread until you can calm yourself down.
 
@The Calaca

Please close this as nothing new is here

@Celestial Judge

I Don't care what you had to do to upgrade Fairy Tail, this is not Fairy Tail and if Black Clover doesn't have a calc then make a thread about it. All you are doing is saying the same thing over and over. Just because you dodge a lightspeed attack doesn't make you lightspeed by default.

I'm not aggravated, You just seem incapable of understanding. The wiki isn't making itself unreliable, are profiles aren't perfect but following your example and just stamping Lightspeed on there profiles because they dodged light is false. What other verses do have nothing to do with this discussion. If you see no calc like in Black Clover, make a thread about it. Actually make a thread with hard evidence in the OP and don't try and use the other verses argument and you might get somewhere.
 
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