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Thundercracker versus Cure Beat

I'm not sure how far into universal Thundercracker is. From the look at the profiles, it seems pretty early in. Cure Beat on the other hand would be far into universal via scaling to Cure Black and Cure White.

For the scale:

Queen of light (who stopped the universe from collasping at the risk of her life)<=Dark King<Seeds of Darkness enhanced by the prism stones (nearly caused the universe to collaspe casually)<Fusion of the seeds of darkness<Rainbow Bracelet Black and White<<Dark King enhanced by prism stones<=porun enhanced rainbow storm<Max Heart Black and white<Sparkle Bracelet Black and White<<Freezen and Frozen<Cure Melody and Cure Rythem<=Cure Beat (not to mention the continued boosts she gets through the rest of the All Star films).

So, unless Thundercracker is further in than I think (and even than I think Beat is still way further in), than Beat takes the win.
 
Regenesis Shockwave < OP & Megs Durability

Then whoever hurt them or are comparable to them get to scale.

But Shockwave borders on 2-C for absorbing the Dead Universe while having power able to destroy space-time.
 
Diinou HotHead said:
Regenesis Shockwave < OP & Megs Durability
Then whoever hurt them or are comparable to them get to scale.

But Shockwave borders on 2-C for absorbing the Dead Universe while having power able to destroy space-time.
Ok, I saw the Shockwave profile and just wasn't sure if the full 2-C applied to Thundercracker do to his profile just saying "at least universal". Thank you for clearing it up for me. Even granting that, I still think Cure Beat is just so much higher into 2-C via the scaling chain I showed.
 
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