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Gerard Valkyrie (Bleach) vs Lucifer (Supernatural)

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The Warrior of God versus The Falle Angel

The Miracle versus The Morning Star

Who would win between these two never dying immortals?

Main Scenario) The condition for a victory is to destroy each other once. Speed is not equalized and anything goes. They start off 20 meters away from each other in Tokyo filled with reiatsu. If it's a stomp for Gerard, they start off at the edge of the city on opposite sides and speed is equalized. If it's a stomp for Lucifer, Gerard can immediately start on his giant form. The battle is restricted in the country of Japan. Lucifer is not allowed any time manipulation here

Bonus) Anything goes. Who can outlast who? Might be an unnecessary scenario but then again Gerard regen is strong.
 
What about sub-atomic? Couldn't he just poof Gerard into mush?

Does Gerard have strong defense against Soul manipulation?
 
Gerard seemed to have a lot of trouble dying. Using even reiatsu to recover from being eradicate into nothing. And soul... not quite sure. He is a Quincy that deals with shinigamis though so I think he should be pretty resistant? Maybe?
 
CoreOfimBalance(COB) said:
Gerard seemed to have a lot of trouble dying. Using even reiatsu to recover from being eradicate into nothing. And soul... not quite sure. He is a Quincy that deals with shinigamis though so I think he should be pretty resistant? Maybe?
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I mean, Lucifer's Smite is sub-atomic and nearly instant. I don't see any way for Gerard to recover from instant nothingness.
 
^ Wasn't Gerard shown to have a Quincy cross in his body that is his weak point?

If yes, then Lucifer should easily blow that thing up alongside Gerard's body, otherwise I only see an eternal durability bypassing body exploder vs an eternally stronger regenerating monster (unfortunately, I doubt that it is possible to reach a level of strength which makes someone immune to this kind of hax).

In short, I either see Lucifer winning or an inconclusive.
 
Aizen lost to Lucifer in another thread, so I don't see Gerard pulling a miracle (jk) and winning against this one, Lucifer might atomize him or BFR him, depending on his mood. Also, gerard has not shown any resistance to illusions, so I think he would probably fall into one before he knows.
 
The condition of the main battle is for the other to destroy each other once. By destroy I mean have no way to regenerate but thinking about it both can just keep regenerating...

And no. He has no weak point. He's been decapitated, torn apart, split into two, frozen with "Ice that would make any function of something cease" an anti-hax-hax basically, and even turned into nothing. So yeah he should be able to shake off the attacks.

And no BFRs, match is strictly set on Japan for the main scenario. The bonus was not needed thinking about it. Though what would illusions actually do though? It won't technically count as a win.

Maybe I should've waited for him to have actually died... oh well.
 
GreatestSin said:
^ Wasn't Gerard shown to have a Quincy cross in his body that is his weak point?

If yes, then Lucifer should easily blow that thing up alongside Gerard's body, otherwise I only see an eternal durability bypassing body exploder vs an eternally stronger regenerating monster (unfortunately, I doubt that it is possible to reach a level of strength which makes someone immune to this kind of hax).

In short, I either see Lucifer winning or an inconclusive.
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That's the Quincy Symbol for activating his Vollstandig. What are you talking about?
 
Here, you can see a Quincy Cross inside of Gerard,

http://www.***********.net/bleach/670/6

This is only speculation, which is why i said it in a question but most likely it is his weak point, of course we need proof, if the manga will ever show his defeat we should see it. :(
 
.... Never seen that before. Good catch Greatest Sin. Though if Toshiro froze everything and has anti hax hax and it still wasn't enough.... Well yeah.
 
^ I know, this is why we unfortunately need to wait for his loss before judging if it was a weakness or not.
 
Just need to wait a week... Is it bad that I'm slightly glad and sad that Gerard isn't showing up much? More time for him to remain ambigiously op.
 
GreatestSin said:
here you can see a star-quincy-thingy inside of Gerard,

http://www.***********.net/bleach/670/6

This is only speculation which is why i said it in a question but most likely it is his weak point, of course we need proof, if the manga will ever show his defeat we should see it. :(
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That's the Quincy symbol all Quincy use when they go Vollstandig. Gerard's was in his blood. As Nodt's Vollstandig letter was under his eye ball, he just roll his eye up and he transforms. Just how all the others do, Gerard's blood activated his in that moment.
 
Kubo.... that's not how you write off a badass character... You have him freaking get absorbed as if all his powers are nothing... I guess for weaknesses Gerard is weak to energy absorption that has a better control over him. Or something that drains the soul.
 
CoreOfimBalance(COB) said:
Kubo.... that's not how you write off a badass character... You have him freaking get absorbed as if all his powers are nothing... I guess for weaknesses Gerard is weak to energy absorption that has a better control over him. Or something that drains the soul.
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Auswähle Japanese for "Holy Selectio

Yhwach can steal their powers and make them his own. This process is ultimately fatal to its victims, particularly those who are already weak. Upon Yhwach's activation of this ability, his targets are engulfed in massive columns of light. Even being near the columns of light is enough to strip a Quincy of their power. It absorbs energy from those Quincy judged to be unnecessary

there sorry but what you said would not beat gerard it kill him because he quincy and that power kills them.

so unless you know some one but yhwach who can use that power its not a weakness.

and you said seal his engery would kill him no he can take reiatsu from the sky if need be.
 
This is a necro post but it turns out Lucifer could disintegrate beings made of wavelengths and energy. Since Castiel needed to be actually remade by God. I think we just found out how Lucy wins here.
 
So far

??? - HokageMangaVox

Refuted - DBZboy

S1

Lucifer - 5 (Volundox, Aparajita, GreatestSin (leaning on Tie or Lucy), PaChi2, Spartan1204)

S2

Lucifer - 5 (Volundox, Aparajita, GreatestSin (leaning on Tie or Lucy), PaChi2, Spartan1204)
 
M11UTD said:
this's a stomp match since Lucy is multi-continent with greater hax
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Having greater ap doesn't mean anything to Gerard. His power of the Miracle will keep him alive from almost anything done to him and his hoffung can redirect any damage done to it on the opponent no matter how strong they are
 
@M11 it's not a stomp because people claim Gerard could keep getting stronger endlessly and endlessly. Simple like that. It's almost more powerful than Almighty tbh.

@Amlad ironically though, Lucifer can destroy energy itself seeing as archangels could destroy other angels completely, soul and wavelength included. So he actually has the means to take down Gerard.
 
We have to remember that he's in character. So that brings the question. Would he go in for meele or just kill Gerard right away?
 
No, going off of his power of the Miracle and how he described it he should be able to take any damage done to his body and get stronger. He could potentially have High regen. However the best feat we saw was when Byakuya completely destroyed the upper half of his body. Or maybe you could argue that being blown into pieces was his best feat. So going off of feats he is low high regen
 
Issue is one way or another, Lucifer will find out melee isn't working too well and he's just gonna go for smiting since it's a favorite thing to do for angels. And dealing with energy absorbing or energy destroying attacks seems to be Gerard's weakness.
 
Low-High Regenerationn is regenerating from a puddle of blood according to this site and Gerard has shown nothing like that as far as I remember.

Gerard regenerated from being blown to pieces which is why his Regenerationn is High-Mid.
 
Yeah it was more like Toshiro's freezing effect was based on countering special damage that isn't focused on Regenerationn, so that would explain why Gerard could still move. And after that he was just frozen and blown to pieces.

Also voting for anyone Burning?
 
Lucifer never resorts to Hand to hand as a first method of fighting. Gerard gets smited at subatomical level. End, no miracle will save him.
 
Lucifer never resorts to Hand to hand as a first method of fighting. Gerard gets smited at subatomical level. End, no miracle will save him.
 
You saw how he went with the Winchesters. Then again it's arguable... But yeah ironically no miracles for Gerard lol.
 
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