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Kid Buu vs. Doomsday
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no BFR
who wins and why?
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Just asking but, is Doomsday allowed to resurrect any time he is defeated so the only way to kill him is to bypass this? Because Kid buu can oneshot him pretty easily, the only thing that is stopping him from that is the speed advantage of doomsday. So... if doomsday can't kill buu and buu can't hit doomsday, this is inconclusive right?
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@PaChi2 Doomsday resurrect has a long delay, its not instant it can be months or years. After he's put down he can be tossed into space, imprisoned, etc. So I think it's safe to say it can be a victory if he's put down.
This is a fun one but I think I'm going to have to back Kid Buu on this one. The biggest problem was the treatment of Doomsday by DC after his battle with Superman. He's been Jokers pawn, beaten to a pulp, disenagrated and even tossed into a teleporter where he gets teleported from the moon to earth non stop to subdue him.
Kid Buu is erratic so it's hard to say how the battle will play out. When he first arrived he just destroyed the planet. When Goku teleported away he continue to teleport to planet after planet with high powerlevels instantly destroying them.
If Doomsday gets caught in a planet buster and survives, I think the ensuing battle in space would easily favor Kid Buu, who would be invulnerable to a great deal of physical attacks and poison. Whereas Doomsday won't be invulnerable to absorption and being turned to candy if it even came to that.
This is a fun one but I think I'm going to have to back Kid Buu on this one. The biggest problem was the treatment of Doomsday by DC after his battle with Superman. He's been Jokers pawn, beaten to a pulp, disenagrated and even tossed into a teleporter where he gets teleported from the moon to earth non stop to subdue him.
Kid Buu is erratic so it's hard to say how the battle will play out. When he first arrived he just destroyed the planet. When Goku teleported away he continue to teleport to planet after planet with high powerlevels instantly destroying them.
If Doomsday gets caught in a planet buster and survives, I think the ensuing battle in space would easily favor Kid Buu, who would be invulnerable to a great deal of physical attacks and poison. Whereas Doomsday won't be invulnerable to absorption and being turned to candy if it even came to that.
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Either Buu or inconclusive. Due to Doomsday's main power being his coming back from anything, we see that as an immortality type iirc. So if Buu puts him down once via ki attack, I doubt the fight is over. So the only thing is if Doomsday can adapt to transmutation or absorption, which I'm not certain if.
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All buy needs to do is candy beam or absorb him doomsday would try to take all of buu's attacks so he will most likely get hit by the beam but it is true buu is erratic but when he sees him as a threat I think he will try to candy beam or absorb him.
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SOOOO,i guess imma use stronger and newer incarnations of doomsday then? kay
SO people seem to be forgetting,doomsday has reactive evolution as a standard nowadays,AKA,as soon as you whip out a new power/move against him in a fight,he can do two things 1)perfectly copy it or 2)develop a moderate immunity against it. Doomsday(HP) even evolved past darkseid's true self's(3A) omega beams,that erase it's target from existence,and he didn't need to die to do so.Even a minor doomsday clone was able to perfectly copy and overpower superboy's tactile telekinesis.So as soon as buu goes for absorption Doomsday will already have perfectly copied versions of those powers and moderate immunity against them,which will turn to perfect immunity if the fight goes on longer.PS-from what i understand doomsday develops counters and immunity to haxxes that have a direct destructive/debilitating effect on him,kinda like how he still hasn't developed counters to be BFR'ed,and he can't get immune to overwhelming force,you can still overpower him by throwing more power at him than he evolved for,also while the reactive evolution is faster and instant,it's weaker compared to doomsday's complete evolution after death,but it's more useful since DD can keep getting stronger throughout a fight.
And doomsday is a fair bit faster than buu anyway.
SO people seem to be forgetting,doomsday has reactive evolution as a standard nowadays,AKA,as soon as you whip out a new power/move against him in a fight,he can do two things 1)perfectly copy it or 2)develop a moderate immunity against it. Doomsday(HP) even evolved past darkseid's true self's(3A) omega beams,that erase it's target from existence,and he didn't need to die to do so.Even a minor doomsday clone was able to perfectly copy and overpower superboy's tactile telekinesis.So as soon as buu goes for absorption Doomsday will already have perfectly copied versions of those powers and moderate immunity against them,which will turn to perfect immunity if the fight goes on longer.PS-from what i understand doomsday develops counters and immunity to haxxes that have a direct destructive/debilitating effect on him,kinda like how he still hasn't developed counters to be BFR'ed,and he can't get immune to overwhelming force,you can still overpower him by throwing more power at him than he evolved for,also while the reactive evolution is faster and instant,it's weaker compared to doomsday's complete evolution after death,but it's more useful since DD can keep getting stronger throughout a fight.
And doomsday is a fair bit faster than buu anyway.
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Superboy's tactile telekinesis is a joke but moving on.
His reactive evolution won't be use agaisnt absorbtion and candy beam because those are both instant. I also doubt it would be able to help him against energy blasts because in his origin story he was defeated by blasts whiched ko'ed him and he evolved to just be more resistant to it. I know he's a lot more stronger now but my point is he didn't have a reactive defense to it nor did his post death evolution provide some anti energy power.
Plus his durability is only large star level, which I agree with. During the war on krypton or whatever it's called comics. When he was launched as an anti kryptonian weapon, he was instantly defeated by a bunch of kryptonians pounding him to death. Granted they all have superman level strength, just feat wises its not that great. Its like if you restrained him and let Supes him he twenty times without retaliation it should do him in. So given the fact that Buu can spam planetary explosions at Doomsday, I don't think his durability would last.
I also think the planet destruction factor would play a huge role. If the battle ended up in space Buu would have the clear advantage with the ability to fly, teleport and spam projectiles.
His reactive evolution won't be use agaisnt absorbtion and candy beam because those are both instant. I also doubt it would be able to help him against energy blasts because in his origin story he was defeated by blasts whiched ko'ed him and he evolved to just be more resistant to it. I know he's a lot more stronger now but my point is he didn't have a reactive defense to it nor did his post death evolution provide some anti energy power.
Plus his durability is only large star level, which I agree with. During the war on krypton or whatever it's called comics. When he was launched as an anti kryptonian weapon, he was instantly defeated by a bunch of kryptonians pounding him to death. Granted they all have superman level strength, just feat wises its not that great. Its like if you restrained him and let Supes him he twenty times without retaliation it should do him in. So given the fact that Buu can spam planetary explosions at Doomsday, I don't think his durability would last.
I also think the planet destruction factor would play a huge role. If the battle ended up in space Buu would have the clear advantage with the ability to fly, teleport and spam projectiles.
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Uh, Doomsday survived this, which is from Imperiex. I think that Doomsday can survive anything Buu throws at him, especially if it's more than a single attack. He'll resist the Candy Beam - he resisted the Omega Beams, which are also instant.Battledome4me said:
Also, he'll be nearly immune to Buu's Ki attacks as Ki = Energy, and he's adaptive against The Radiant's Energy Attacks.
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We already established that Doomsday can revive but it's not instant. That Imperix shot put him down for a long time. He didn't regrow and continue to fight. You would know if you read these comics you're referencing.
Nothing suggests that a Candy Beam effectiveness is equal to that of Omega beams..
Also Radiant abilities aren't ki attacks.
Nothing suggests that a Candy Beam effectiveness is equal to that of Omega beams..
Also Radiant abilities aren't ki attacks.
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I was arguing for the Regenerationn.Battledome4me said:
Omega Beams is an attack used by Darkseid, a 4-A to 3-A character. Unless you're saying that Kid Buu (a 4-B character)'s attack can be more effective than Omega Beams, then... exactly. Nothing suggests that Doomsday couldn't avoid or shrug off the Candy Beam.
Assuming that Candy Beam works on anything it touches is NLF.
Ki is made up of three components: Genki (Õàâµ░ù; lit. "Energy"), Yüki (Õïçµ░ù; lit. "Courage") and Shōki (µ¡úµ░ù; lit. "Mind"). Also, ki can be "positive" or "negative", depending on the user, so Doomsday has resistance to a third of Ki's make up if not higher, since Ki is defined as "Life Energy"
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...and Doomsday is a 4C character, whats your point?
Omega blast is an attack and candy beam is a magically blast that transforms you to food. Wheres the relation to effectiveness?
Um, ok. Doomsday evolved passed radianta level of attack dont energy. If he was immune to energy, then why would supermans heat ray hurt him or Imperix be able to one shot him with a energy blast?
It seems youre opinion not going to change regardless and your determined to push Doomsday aka The Ultimate as the victor, so Ill let you be. Have fun battledoming.
Omega blast is an attack and candy beam is a magically blast that transforms you to food. Wheres the relation to effectiveness?
Um, ok. Doomsday evolved passed radianta level of attack dont energy. If he was immune to energy, then why would supermans heat ray hurt him or Imperix be able to one shot him with a energy blast?
It seems youre opinion not going to change regardless and your determined to push Doomsday aka The Ultimate as the victor, so Ill let you be. Have fun battledoming.
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I suppose you don't know what Verse equalization is. If you can't show me why Kid Buu's energy attacks should be stronger than Darkseid's, Supermans, or Radiant's, then i have no idea what else to tell you.Battledome4me said:
Superman is able to dodge and react to Candy Beam - Doomsday should be able to do it the same way.
Darkseid's energy beam is negative energy, it deletes the affected from existence, it's a magical attack just like Candy Beam is. Candy Beam is powered by Ki, Ki is Energy. Doomsday has resistence to Energy attacks. Physical strength won't put him down.
Absorbtion? Sure, that might work.
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Ok let's get this straight,doomsday is 4C, BUT 4c is his base after everytime he gets retconned by writers,due to massive PIS,because an immortal infinitely evolving truly evil being doesn't bode well for superheroes.
Doomsday has evolved enough to a point,taking on true darkseid who's 3A,and tanking his omega beams with no visible damage which erases it's target from existence,which is far more effective and powerful than a beam that turns you into candy,both are reality warping,but the omega beams win via coming from a being whose power levels and considerably higher than Buu's,Also not only that doomsday beat the utter crap out of true darkseid,also proceeded to fight another new god and a motherbox enhanced superman together,both whom are in tier 3 range then and wrecking them both until he was BFRed to the heat death of the universe.
Doomsday has evolved enough to a point,taking on true darkseid who's 3A,and tanking his omega beams with no visible damage which erases it's target from existence,which is far more effective and powerful than a beam that turns you into candy,both are reality warping,but the omega beams win via coming from a being whose power levels and considerably higher than Buu's,Also not only that doomsday beat the utter crap out of true darkseid,also proceeded to fight another new god and a motherbox enhanced superman together,both whom are in tier 3 range then and wrecking them both until he was BFRed to the heat death of the universe.
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WIN BY KO: KID BUUF
DEATH BATTLE: DOOMSDAY
DEATH BATTLE: DOOMSDAY
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Would reactive evolution counter absorption in any way? Cause absorption seems like a pretty good win condition for buy here.
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I think buu has a chance with absorbtion
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Buu's absorbtion knocks DD out permanitly without outside help.Also the second DD makes contact buu latches on and doesn't let go.
8-Buu
3-DD
3 or 2-Inconclusive
8-Buu
3-DD
3 or 2-Inconclusive
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I also would like to add that Buu regen is more useful in this battle than Doomsday. People are forgetting how durable Buu is.
Buu wae blown up and had every piece of his body blasted to smoke and he came back. He tanked a planet disintegrator, which he caused and came back instantly. The only way he was defeated was by a n energy ball filled with the power of millions of people, which he was still capable of stopping and pushing back. Goku had to push him into it so that every molecule could get destroyed.
Buu more powerful and more durable and Doomsday doesnt have the skill set to take him out
Buu wae blown up and had every piece of his body blasted to smoke and he came back. He tanked a planet disintegrator, which he caused and came back instantly. The only way he was defeated was by a n energy ball filled with the power of millions of people, which he was still capable of stopping and pushing back. Goku had to push him into it so that every molecule could get destroyed.
Buu more powerful and more durable and Doomsday doesnt have the skill set to take him out
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Buu doesn't have 6 he has 6 votes more then DD so yeah it's enough.
And if OP doesn't state Victory conditions then we go to standred battle assumptions.
So incap,knock out or death 2 of these Buu being able to do
And if OP doesn't state Victory conditions then we go to standred battle assumptions.
So incap,knock out or death 2 of these Buu being able to do
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One thing I don't find fair is that Misogi Kumagawa, Frisk, Asriel, and Flowey can come back from death without any qualms about it, but if DD does it, suddenly people are saying incap/k.o.?
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Buu's magic incapacitates people in his body.Aparajita said:
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Could you show me where he has resisted absorption? I was waiting on confirmation for something like that.
Could you show me where he has resisted absorption? I was waiting on confirmation for something like that.
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Kid buu range is massive though. Buu would immediately vaporize the planet with doomsday in it. The power to destroy a planet to that level would mess up doomsday big time. The superman he fought, post crisis was knocked out from a shockwave of a supernova.Aldrecht said:
When dooomsday goes in for the attack hes open to counter attack. Ill say it again, doomsday doesnt have the skillset to beat him whereas buu has the power, casual planet vaporizing, absorption, the ability to alterhis genetic makeup by literally turning him to any food.
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