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Miden versus Princess Snow Kaguya

Hmm

I want to say that if he goes too near, Kaguya can freeze Miden which also has a sleep inducements effect that bypass resistance.
 
Fast enough to freeze an entire Ocean instantly. It's a bit passive since her presence make the whole planet froze by himself (even it take some times) but focused it's almost instantaneously.
 
That sounds like more than Ruru heating her finger can deal with. I'm not sure about something like trying to use Sunny Fire while frozen, but sleep probably wins her this.
 
Well basically this match is:

  • Miden can't OS due to being inferior in AP to Kaguya
  • He get thought based froze from 4 Kilometers
Also, the passive freeze allow her to detect him and froze him with the passive ice particles present in the wholme planet.
 
Miden > ASM Cure Black/Cure White > other All Stars Memories Precure  All Stars New Stage 3 Precure  end of series DokiDoki Precure > first appearance Cure Ace >> Corrupted Regina >> beginning of series DokiDoki Precure  end of series Smile Precure  Joker (Smile Precure) >> beginning of series Smile Precure = end of series Suite Precure  beginning of series Suite Precure, two of which are > Freezen and Frozen > MHSB Cure Black and Cure White > Baldez >> MHB Cure Black and Cure White  MHB Shiny Luminous  RB Cure Black and Cure White > PoL Dark King = at least 2X universe-shaking. Miden oneshots.
 
The God Of Procrastination said:
Immensely above 1.5118952e+65 versus around 3.34e+65? Miden oneshots.
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Nope since you can't quantify how far Miden is, and he can't one shot since Galaxy level is only 3 time above Kaguya and 3x isn't even enough ton One Shot. Miden need to be above Baseline galaxy level to One shot.

And the fact that Kaguya has Low-High regen mean that she can come back from AP based attack but it's irrelevant since Miden has not enough power to One shot, so even if he can one shot, she'll just come back (Ah, she also,n can use her power even in a destroyed state so one shot kaguya is pretty a bad idea but again he can't.

And the fact that Kaguya thought based attack mean that Miden can't even go near to Kaguya, and even if he go near, Kaguya's breath are enough to froze people.

Kaguya take this comfortably
 
The God Of Procrastination said:
Miden > ASM Cure Black/Cure White > other All Stars Memories Precure  All Stars New Stage 3 Precure  end of series DokiDoki Precure > first appearance Cure Ace >> Corrupted Regina >> beginning of series DokiDoki Precure  end of series Smile Precure  Joker (Smile Precure) >> beginning of series Smile Precure = end of series Suite Precure  beginning of series Suite Precure, two of which are > Freezen and Frozen > MHSB Cure Black and Cure White > Baldez >> MHB Cure Black and Cure White  MHB Shiny Luminous  RB Cure Black and Cure White > PoL Dark King = at least 2X universe-shaking. Miden oneshots.
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Shouldnt miden be 3C instead the sacling chain is pretty long
 
The God Of Procrastination said:
That's the power of Precure canonicity.
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Well, as long as this scaling chain isn't fine, it probably can't be used:

  • Regina is 7-B
  • Joker is 5-B
I can't really trust this chain if it contain 7-B and 5-B chatracters

@Setsuna Maybe, also, your vote?
 
I'm going to be a little less pessimistic for a second, and say that Miden realises that he needs to teleport away before it's too late. He then goes for one of his special attacks (probably babification), and takes her out. I'm not sure how likely this is.
 
The problem with this hypothesis is that firstly, he never do that in character to start with, secondly he will still try to attack Kaguya at the start of the match, any of his action in character are meaningless since Kaguya's move are faster, plus the fact Kaguya can also teleport behind him if he do that (she doe that in canon) and finally he will not realises since he will be insta-Frozen + Sleep GG. Another thing is, Miden's character is pretty bad in fight, he will try to get near to absorb the opponent alongside his memories, that's the worst thing he can do.

I could also argue that he will be passively frozen if he wait too long since Kaguya froze the planet with a tiny part of her passively in canon. Kaguya is a really bad opponent for character like Miden.
 
That's don't remove my reason stated here and here, the scaling change nothing really. And you should fix the profiles firstly before using your scaling, due to being fallacious.

Keep^my vote for Kaguya via thought based Frezezing + Sleep which Miden has zero answer, the fact that Miden can't bypass her regen ect..

Sailor Moon also has those ability but still get instnt frozen.
 
The God Of Procrastination said:
Miden has a large number of incapacitation options, though likely not enough time to use them.
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Yes, that why i've said that opponent like Kaguya with a instant win if you don't have resistance are the worst for characters like Miden

You should try opponent like White Face, characters with no real starting move or simply stomp your precure spam match-up

Anyway, i'm done with this thread.
 
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