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Bartleby beat Khorne though... and Spider = Bartleby.Dvorak1902 said:How else are we gonna be sure?
Also, Khorne vs Oryx is too good to let it pass.
Not just that.. but Debilitate, as well smhZenkaibattery1 said:Dispel All is also passive
"Corruption, Law Manipulation, Conceptual Manipulation, Reality Warping, Existence Erasure, Mind Manipulation, Body Puppetry and Possession via his ability to Take"Ben CleverName said:Judging by Oryx's profile I'm assuming you mean spacetime warp and existence erasure. The answer to both is yes, and ironically, it's passive for Spider too.
He's inferior in regards to how we see him in the game due to Raven constantly screwing him over and Bartleby just sitting idley by for no reason. At full-power he's actually implied to be the strongest of the Three, being able to do something on his own which the other two had to (or chose to) do together.Dvorak1902 said:@Ben
Ok, I thought he was inferior to the Tree.
So this is the definitive match?
. . . Yep. Literally, all of those abilities are covered by Dispel All LOLDvorak1902 said:"Corruption, Law Manipulation, Conceptual Manipulation, Reality Warping, Existence Erasure, Mind Manipulation, Body Puppetry and Possession via his ability to Take"Ben CleverName said:Judging by Oryx's profile I'm assuming you mean spacetime warp and existence erasure. The answer to both is yes, and ironically, it's passive for Spider too.
Dispel All and Debilitate both act as passive abilities and forceful ones. Dispel All lives up to its name in that it can dispel literally every type of ability in the game, which includes but is not limited to abilities such as "Corruption, Law Manipulation, Conceptual Manipulation, Reality Warping, Existence Erasure, Mind Manipulation, Body Puppetry and Possession via his ability to Take", this is scaling from him counterbalancing the other cosmic beings who have those abilities as well. Dispel All also drains the target of whatever power it would take them to use their abilities normally.Ionliosite said:Which are Spider's passives?
Dispel works once-per-casting, but as I said it's both passive and forceful so it probably wouldn't be too much of a problem I don't think.GalaxianAegis said:It looks like Spider does have the passive ability to deal with Oryx's second key fairly well.
Does Spider have to keep constantly casting Dispel All to keep the effects working? He kind of needs it to survive in Oryx's Throne World.
^WHYNAUT said:There's also the fact that Oryx becomes a high level of 2-A over time and his hax should scale.
"Don't think you can necessarily scale every ability a weaker boss has to a stronger boss just because one boss is stronger without some sort of in verse reason to do so, though."Wokistan said:Don't think you can necessarily scale every ability a weaker boss has to a stronger boss just because one boss is stronger without some sort of in verse reason to do so, though.
Resistance negation's a resistance because some guardian weapons and abilities can do that but you can't do it to him normally and even when you take away his special resistances you still can't really damage him.
There's also the matter of if Spider can even act in the Throne World, considering the Vex couldn't until they got a mind specifically to deal with the Throne World
"Resistance negation gets resisted."Hl3 or bust said:Not entirely sure what the reasons for Spider's votes are, but heres my two cents
Resistance negation gets resisted. No, i'm not joking that's literally on Oryx's page iirc. Spider simply being further into 2-B isn't even an issue here since they both scale to countless afaik.