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Rick Grimes vs. Paul Blart

Jackythejack

Jackythejack

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i mean they're both law enforcement so why not give it a shot, yeah? Anyways Speed is equalized and Rick is given 9-B weaponry. They start twenty meters away from each other. Who wins and why?

Rick Grimes

Paul Blart
 
Gonna go with ol blart on this one he was able to compare to people who could hurt him and he knocked someone out by just laying on them.
 
How's he gonna lay on someone in this case?

They're too far apart for him to exactly just sit on rick. This'd be a range fight most likely.
 
Blart is fast enough to dodge the gunfire. And is way to strong for skill to master for Rick. He also is very tricky. He has disarmed and tricked armed men multiple times. He gets up close and backhands him to floor.
 
Buttersamuri said:
Blart is fast enough to dodge the gunfire. And is way to strong for skill to master for Rick. He also is very tricky. He has disarmed and tricked armed men multiple times. He gets up close and backhands him to floor.
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What butter just said
 
I highly doubt rick would just allow him to get close. What's Paul's reaction speed? Because Rick has supersonic+ weaponry, and he has much higher stamina and much higher intelligence. Also he can kill walkers no problem, who can take on cows in a 1 on 1 which is likely comparable to the horse.

Honestly don't see a strength gap really being there. I see a major skill gap considering rick's been in so much more life or death situations.
 
Jackythejack said:
I highly doubt rick would just allow him to get close. What's Paul's reaction speed? Because Rick has supersonic+ weaponry, and he has much higher stamina and much higher intelligence. Also he can kill walkers no problem, who can take on cows in a 1 on 1 which is likely comparable to the horse.
Honestly don't see a strength gap really being there. I see a major skill gap considering rick's been in so much more life or death situations.
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Subsonic
 
Paul is subsonic yes, so he can't handle something that's supersonic+

He also doesn't have nearly as much killing experience as Rick
 
Jackythejack said:
Paul is subsonic yes, so he can't handle something that's supersonic+
He also doesn't have nearly as much killing experience as Rick
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But speed is equalized in this like i said paul blart is able to react to bullets
 
Jackythejack said:
Paul is subsonic yes, so he can't handle something that's supersonic+
He also doesn't have nearly as much killing experience as Rick
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You cannot cast your own reason on your own thread ovo
 
Okay but can he react to many, many bullets at once? I'm pretty sure rick has a machine gun on him.

Also did I say I was voting? No, I wasn't.
 
Jackythejack said:
Okay but can he react to many, many bullets at once? I'm pretty sure rick has a machine gun on him.
Also did I say I was voting? No, I wasn't.
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He clearly is able to react to multiple bullets i think by being shot at and being able to react to the bullets shot at him
 
Wether he would want him to get close wouldn't matter. Several people didn't want Paul getting close and he does anyway. He is tricky. Paul gets his Reactions from bullets. Ricks typical guns would be as fast as the ones paul has reached to. Plus. Paul could just Glue foam rick which he also did to an armed person before which them down. Paul would also likely play a stealth card. He may not have as much experience compared to Rick. But he is certainly skilled enough. Taking down several armed/trained people. Taking on a cow is good. But Paul is twice that level. In the 200,000s area where animals like cows and horses are in the 100,000 area. So paul has a good strength advatage. No massive no. But certainly a notable one. Armed people aren't anything new to him and he knows how to disarm. He tends to fight with people as strong as him. So fighting someone who is weaker than him is really gonna help. Paul still should take this.
 
But can he react to machine gun fire, which is danmaku levels of firing? It's highly improbably that rick can't shoot down Paul. He's stupid levels of accurate within the show.
 
Jackythejack said:
But can he react to machine gun fire, which is danmaku levels of firing? It's highly improbably that rick can't shoot down Paul. He's stupid levels of accurate within the show.
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He realistically isn't pulling out a machine gun. That is not in character for him to do. He would more likely use a rifle or a pistol. But a machine gun on paul. He would have to know what he is up against. And he isn't pulling that out in time
 
Doesn't stop Rick's insane, shoot off your fingers in a dark room while you're several meters away accuracy. Also that cow feat was only an example. They can also overpower tigers, mutated tigers at that, which I think is greater than a horse, but either way Rick can easily one shot them.
 
Buttersamuri said:
Jackythejack said:
But can he react to machine gun fire, which is danmaku levels of firing? It's highly improbably that rick can't shoot down Paul. He's stupid levels of accurate within the show.
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He realistically isn't pulling out a machine gun. That is not in character for him to do. He would more likely use a rifle or a pistol. But a machine gun on paul. He would have to know what he is up against. And he isn't pulling that out in time
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Again, what butter just said
 
Impressive accuracy. But Blart is still fast enough to react. Again. Mans reacted to guns. Blart is just as capable of shooting Rick with his glue gun. Which has successfully tagged people comparable to him. As well is a large range do to being a sort of spread shot fire. So even if Rick could react to it. Dodging it is far far less likely than Paul dodging bullets. Rick is likely getting glue tagged first. And that would easily overpower and get Rick stuck. And from there it's an easy win.

Still in the hundred thousands where Blarts at least in the 200,000. Animals aren't very high. Paul is always gonna have s good sizable advatage
 
Drite77 said:
I mean, both are bad, but TWD is not as bad as that movie
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Drite77 said:
Don't blame me if you have shit taste for things ovo
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I feel like rick having a gun skews this towards him
 
Paul also has a Gun. It's a glue Gun. Which shoots large amounts of glue foam. But if Rick got hit by it. Then he is as screwed as if it was a bullet. As this glue can restrain people twice as strong as him. So he would basically be down for the count. And Paul could easily walk up and knock him out from there. And the glue gun is also much more wide spread. Making it far harder to dodge. Where paul could dodge a bullet with a lot more ease
 
Also I do want to say a cow can easily damage a horse and a car so it stands to reason the AP gap ain't actually that big at all. And either way like 100 kJ to 200 kJ isn't that much in the slightest and easily workable by someone with skill. That's nowhere near oneshot territory.
 
At No point did I say it was one shot territory. No point. He just is notably stronger. I've said this. He should be about close to Twice as strong. Paul is in the 200,000 and rick is in the 100,000. So around a 2ish gap. Maybe a bit more or less depending. Which is a good strength and durability advantage. And since the glue gun can restrain people of that strength. It will have no problem restraining Rick. If Rick is hit by it. It's game over. He might as well have been shot with a gun cause he isn't breaking free. So he is Incapacitated. And or KO or killed should Paul need to do that.
 
I mean...not really? If anything considering they can easily hurt horses they should be around even. Give or take a couple tens of kJ but the gap likely isn't two times or anything greater.

Also what stops him from like, aim dodging the glue gun? That's only stick him to the floor either way, or just be generally annoying depending on the glue it is. It takes a while to actually get all sticky, after all.

Seriously as far as I see it rick just has more experience, skill and killer instinct and potential that I don't see a minor so advantage getting by, especially since bullets can generally punch higher than their tier. A bullet would really screw up the man and with Rick's stupid amount of accuracy he should be able to predict movements.
 
No. That's just wrong. The toughest of horses are only like Low 100,000 area which is considering the KE they would give off with a full charge. Paul has an at least low 200,000 feat area. That is not the general same area. Same area is if they are like 20,000 to 30,000 off. 50,000 at most. But we are talking at least a 100,000 difference. Which is a lot considering the levels of these characters. If it was like these peoples were in the millions of joules and there was a 100,000 difference. That's where it's like they are basically in the same area. But this is the situation where Paul is basically 2 Ricks in strength.

The fact that both can dodge guns. However, Paul's is a spread shot, making it Far more likely he will tag Rick first. I'm not saying Rick couldn't dodge it. But Paul will be able to dodge a Bullets more than Rick is gonna be able to dodge a spread shot. It's just the general logic of Spreadshot >> Single shot. And it's not gonna be annoying, it's gonna take him down. It restrained a guy who scales to Paul who is again Much stronger. Even if thy were same levels of strength, the gun still restrained someone comparable to himself. Meaning that Rick still couldn't break free. And he isn't as strong. He is at least 100,000 joules weaker. And no it doesn't. This is Glue foam gun. When your shot by it. It's already gonna be sticky. Thatd why the gun who got shot by it was restrained. Was cause it's immediately sticky.

You claim they are minor. But you are deflating Paul. Saying they are practically the same despite Paul is likely twice Ricks level. And Yes a bullet would hurt. But ya know. Being shot by the glue gun which can restrian someone much stronger than Rick will also hurt. And it's a spread shot and something rick couldn't break free of. Paul at least could survive a bullet wound if it hit him in the right place. If Rick is tagged by the glue gun. He isn't breaking free. And yes. I get it. He has good accuracy. But Paul can dodge bullets and has faced armed men before who have training. Paul is a very capable fighter, the man has police training himself. He may not be as experienced as Rick. But he definitely can keep up.
 
And bulls and cattle are stronger than horses in a full on charge, and a zombie can easily kill a cow, as well as highly skilled individuals. Rick has fought an arguably stronger version of this zombie with spike armor on it and killed him with his bare hands. Also Blart won't have time to aim a glue gun when he's being shot at. Rick wouldn't allow him to pull out a gun and aim it. I can bet rick is quicker on the draw than Blart, after all.

A two times ap gap ain't that hard to bypass, dude. I've seen so many people pass that kind of AP gap due to skill, James Bond being a prime example. While I'm not saying rick is James Bond levels of skill, he's definitely way more skilled and experience than Blart. He's fought tricky humans before, whole groups of walkers as well. He's gone hand to hand with people who are smarter and have more stamina than Blart. He's a quicker shot, a more accurate shot, and he has much, much more firepower and actual lethal weapons and doesn't have to get close to secure a kill. Now are you implying rick gets stuck to the floor? Because if so that's not a problem. Because he has a gun with prettt long range.

All I'm saying is that Rick has fought people who are more skilled, trickier to kill or hit, are smarter than, have more stamina than, and have a more lethal and practical arsenal than Blart. Is there anything that implies he'd go for the glue gun first, by the way? I'm just curious. I only watched the first movie (and wish that I didn't), but I don't remember the glue gun being all too relevant in the first movie.
 
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