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Danny Phantom vs Jiren

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Jiren cannot touch or see Danny,

Jiren then beats himself up or immediately expels Danny.
 
Jiren definitely has the AP advantage I believe and he's a better fighter plus his glare is op but Danny out Haxs him.

Invisibility will make it hard for Jiren to see Danny comming, Intangibility means none of Jirens attacks will land. Possession equals GG since Jiren has no resistance to it. Danny's barriers will block and reflect Jirens attacks, Duplication gives Danny the numbers advantage. Lastly Ghostly Wail far, far exceeds Danny's capabilities so that definitely should be capable of doing serious damage to Jiren.
 
Ecto Energy isn't Ki... Unless we verse equalize which I don't think is possible for these two verses.
 
Ki doesn't exist in Danny Phantom, you can't just give him it. Rocks in DBZ having ki means nothing since that isn't the case in Danny Phantom. The ghosts are made up of a different type of energy than Ki.

This is the equivalent to saying the Specter Deflector works on Goku...
 
LordGriffin1000 said:
Ki doesn't exist in Danny Phantom, you can't just give him it. Rocks in DBZ having ki means nothing since that isn't the case in Danny Phantom. The ghosts are made up of a different type of energy than Ki.

This is the equivalent to saying the Specter Deflector works on Goku...
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Wait, backtrack for a second. Why isn't Verse Equalization possible?
 
LordGriffin1000 said:
Ki doesn't exist in Danny Phantom
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Ki is the DBZ universe's life force, being able to sence ki just means the character can sence beings that are existing, since Danny is a being who exists he can be senced.
 
@Tots Real

That is the case for Dragon Ball, not Danny Phantom. You using Verse Equalized which isn't possible here.

@Baki

Because the energy types are to different to equalize.
 
LordGriffin1000 said:
@Tots Real

That is the case for Dragon Ball, not Danny Phantom. You using Verse Equalized which isn't possible here.

@Baki

Because the energy types are to different to equalize.
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Ahhhhh, suppose you're right. Still Danny definitely stomps
 
LordGriffin1000 said:
@Tots Real
That is the case for Dragon Ball, not Danny Phantom. You using Verse Equalized which isn't possible here.

@Baki

Because the energy types are to different to equalize.
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Through this logic no cross-verse fights with spirit-based powers wouldn't work on each other. Since Ki senses mean someone can sense another's lifeforce/spiritual energy, it would make sense for it to sense a spirit. For a creature to simple be alive/existing it makes sense that at least a minor spiritual based existing would be there, so an ability to sence such energy would work.
 
Yeah, Ki Sensing not work on fights with characters from different verses isn't a thing.
 
Can you show me a canon moment in Dragon Ball where they can sense dead people?. Haven't seen Dragon Ball in a while.

By your logic Danny's Ghost Sense can works on any Dragon Ball character.
 
BakiHanma18 said:
Hmmmmm, yeah actually, I don't see why ki wouldn't be a thing in Danny Phantom
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Oh I don't know... Because it isn't. Ecto Energy is the energy in Danny Phantom.
 
Honestly though it doesn't matter as stated above. Y'all can do what you want.
 
LordGriffin1000 said:
Can you show me a canon moment in Dragon Ball where they can sense dead people?. Haven't seen Dragon Ball in a while.

By your logic Danny's Ghost Sense can works on any Dragon Ball character.
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1. Danny isn't dead. He's only half ghost.

2. Ghost Sense explicitly only works on ghosts, as humans don't have Ecto Energy. Your equivalency is a false one.
 
@The Wright Way

1. If you actually watched Danny Phantom you would know when he transforms his physiology becomes that of a full ghost which is a spirit. So while Danny is in ghost mode he is dead. Half ghost is just a term for him because he has there power while still in human form.

2. Humans don't have Ecto Energy in Danny Phantom, but if you try and equalize Ki and Ecto Energy than Danny would sense those with Ki as the ghost sense is sensing the energy, not the being so it is not false as I wasn't talking about ordinary humans.

I also said it didn't matter so you didn't need to bring this up the as it wasn't necessary.
 
Even ghosts in Dragon Ball can be sensed by Ki. You are turning equalization into something it really isn't.

It isn't necessary, but I see no reason not to correct an issue that may cause problems in other discussions.
 
@LSirLancelot

When can ghost sense ki. I'd have no problem if you guys actually show it to me. I'm not turning it into anything, I'm just stating you can't equalize ki and ecto energy.

Them sensing ghosts are fine if you can show me something. I haven't watched anything Dragon Ball in a while now which is why I'm asking. Though this thread needs to be closed anyway.
 
But you are. This is not about equalizing ki and ecto energy, but ki and ghosts. Ki is a natural quality of everything in dragon ball and even ghosts have Ki, that's what would be equalized.

I mean, just look at Goku learning ki related techniques and getting stronger while dead after Cell Saga.
 
The Unknown Warrior1 said:
Out of curiosity, does Danny's invisibility negate all 5 senses or just sight?
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Intresting question. It negates sight and possibly hearing as it seems no one can hear them but it's not stated to do hearing. However 99% of the time they add intangibility with there invisibility so even if Jiren can hear Danny coming, he'd phase right through any attack.

In the end it doesn't matter if he can or can't sense him (I'll concede and say he can sense Danny) I'm to tired to debate.
 
LSirLancelotDuLacl said:
Actually, wouldn't intangibility negate the sound since he's not interacting with anything?
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I guess so.
 
LSirLancelotDuLacl said:
But you are. This is not about equalizing ki and ecto energy, but ki and ghosts. Ki is a natural quality of everything in dragon ball and even ghosts have Ki, that's what would be equalized.

I mean, just look at Goku learning ki related techniques and getting stronger while dead after Cell Saga.
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Goku kept his body so that doesn't work.
 
He didn't keep his body after Cell though, as it blew up. Neither did North Kai, since he also blew up. Neither did Vegeta as we see his body all petrified after using Final Explosion, still has it when Goku finds him later.
 
What's the big problem? If it has life energy/vitality, it should be able to be sensed. In any case, it doesn't seem like Jiren has a win-con anyway.
 
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