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Why Ren Fuji AP doesn't scale to Reinhard
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Because Rein always trashes him, even as a god he was going to die but muh plot saved his ass.
I though he already had resistance?
I though he already had resistance?
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Weird, he should have it.
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Someone, add it.
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I recall it was rejected for some reason
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It should be on this thread, then.
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What?
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If it was rejected, then the reason should be available.
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I don't remember if ALRF made some argument if he scales or not but he fights against 7/8(?) swastikas rein in Marie route, that's something I guess.
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That was in the anime, I think.
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That's the only time they fought and isn't filled with PIS (looking at you Kei route), it happens in the novel.
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The anime is an adaptation of the Marie routw, so that makes sense.
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Everytime Reinhard fights Ren - Reinhard shit stomps him, and the people Ren is fighitng with, without him breaking a sweat.
Just look at their first interaction here.
The only exceptions to this is when Ren begins to emanate his law, in where he remarks that he can't believe finally reached Reinhard's level.
Scaling Ren to Reinhard would be inaccurate.
Just look at their first interaction here.
The only exceptions to this is when Ren begins to emanate his law, in where he remarks that he can't believe finally reached Reinhard's level.
Scaling Ren to Reinhard would be inaccurate.
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That's already settled, now the thing is the mindhax resistance.
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Why wouldn't Ren have mindhax resistance? He stood before Reinhard and his spear - ****, he touched Reinhard's spear which is worse than being near it.
And all of the LDO have it, and Ren obtained the same type of magic that they did - it should be a no brainer.
And all of the LDO have it, and Ren obtained the same type of magic that they did - it should be a no brainer.
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>he touched Reinhard's spear which is worse than being near it
Full of PIS and you know it, Kei route doesn't count >:v
>And all of the LDO have it, and Ren obtained the same type of magic that they did - it should be a no brainer.
This is obvious, I agree but he never fought a full powered Rein so I don't know if he scales to the lance or what.
Full of PIS and you know it, Kei route doesn't count >:v
>And all of the LDO have it, and Ren obtained the same type of magic that they did - it should be a no brainer.
This is obvious, I agree but he never fought a full powered Rein so I don't know if he scales to the lance or what.
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He almost died from having his hand graze Reinhard's spear, I don't see how that is PIS.Tony di bugalu said:
And Kei Route is the best route - fight me.
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Rea route is best route no contest
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The fact that he touched Reinhard's golden and strong spear ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) is heresy and PIS, he should have died the moment he tried it (and Rein was very nerfed).
Your tastes are clearly trash Rea Route is obviously the best one
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Man of Godly tastes right here.Paul Frank said:
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He nearly died and like you said, Reinhard was immensely nerfed.Tony di bugalu said:
Everyone thinks Rea's route is the best - stop being a sheep, Tony.
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Well, that's true but the problem is if he scales to the lance mindhax in that route and if it scales to the full power Rein.
I personally find it to be the best one, plus there is the Apoptosis fight which is the best one of the whole novel
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Ehh.
I disagree personally. The Apoptosis fight was good, but I liked so many others much more.
I disagree personally. The Apoptosis fight was good, but I liked so many others much more.
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To each their own I guess.
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He wasn't becoming one like Rein, he just got the power up via Marie or chanting.
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You could argue something for Finale Ren as Masada said he'd be able to break Trifa's Holy Grail in that state
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Are you referring to Masada's Q&A in 2010 or somewhere around that time?
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Yeah. Was searching the post in question. Found it but was waiting a bit until someone chimes in
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Nah it wouldn't as EFF was in the presence of not only Commanders but also Reinhard. He was being weakened to hell by all of them being his proximity and besides, weren't they already emanating when they were stomping him?Dziga said:
Additionally, Masada stated that EFF wins 1 v 1 against all commanders
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How would he beat Wolfgang?
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Doesn't EFF stops time at everything in his sight? Or am I remembering wrong?Warren Valion said:
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I just remember Ren and Wolfgang fighting and Ren being overwelm by Wolfgang's speed.Tony di bugalu said:
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That was EFO (marie) then he goes EFF and escapes with Rea in his arms with eleanore dead and Wolffy was hot on his ass along with Isaack but Rein stops them, the rematch has him being overwelmed by the three at once.Warren Valion said:
That's how I remember things going.
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I only know that ren could gradual time stop i think? Cuz in his first bout he managed to completely halt 5 swastika eleonore and machina eventually but not right off the bat. Maybe wearing down enough? Idk
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Most likely through a battle of attrition. The game already addressed how Ren had a bad compability against Schreiber. The premise of Ren's power is to keep running faster and faster while Schreiber's an outright running faster than anyone, even if Ren keep making himself faster infinitely Schreiber would've still end up being faster than him. Schreiber dominating Ren had more to do with hax compability than it's power disparity. It's basically someone who run off of infinite fuel against someone with finite fuel.Warren Valion said:
Assuming Ren is going to get scaled to Valeria's durability, it's very likely that this would only applies to his AP but not necessarily his durability so that's at least something to note.
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What Ash said. Nothing much to add on
