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Son Goku (3-A) vs Surtur (3-A)

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Always wanted to make that fight.

Anyway, Goku has a time limit but for once, he's outhaxing his opponent. Being physically equal to Surtur and having the benefice of instant transmission and the likes gives him the win.
 
How is Goku varied? He only knows how to punch, kick and use ki blasts. Don't get me wrong Goku wins, but still, saying Goku is varied is quite wrong TBH.
 
Sirius The EM Troll said:
How is Goku varied? He only knows how to punch, kick and use ki blasts. Don't get me wrong Goku wins, but still, saying Goku is varied is quite wrong TBH.
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Well, IT is a huge plus in that match, since speed is equallized, he can evade Surtur's attacks, pull a old move and teleport over to him with a Kamehameha ready, can make it looks like he's going to punch Surtur's face only to teleport behind him and strike his back.

Also, his oft-forgotten Solar Flare. Surtur has magic, which can do plenty of things, but Goku being able to "outspeed" him is a huge plus, especially because he lacks knowledge on it and Goku won't dick around.
 
Whilst I hate battles with speed equalized, I agree that Goku wins this one. He's far more skilled as a fighter, IT gives him the ability to control the battle and he has much more verstitle techniques in combat.
 
first of all is surtur only universal?

cuz iirc goku the 3-A versions wud be like up to 5x base universe level at least
 
The Living Tribunal1 said:
first of all is surtur only universal?
cuz iirc goku the 3-A versions wud be like up to 5x base universe level at least
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Hmm... I'm not sure about him being that high on the universal scale. In fact, shouldn't he be like, barely universal? Not saying that he's not 3-A though, as he clearly is, and I still think that Goku would win.
 
i mean if surtur is "just universal"

then he will deinitely lose

much slower than goku and goku is likely at least "5 x barely universal" as ssgss

so i think goku wins
 
Doesn't look like Surtur has many hax from what I found in research, quite strange. He could fit very well in DBS for that reason

Given his pathetic speed, Goku blitzes him. I want to see if anybody can show me impressive hax that Surtur possess. I vote for Goku
 
I guess we could wait a little more to see if anybody has good scans, but what I found from his respect thread is just galaxy-multi galaxy level explosions (quite a lot of feats, but just explosions nevertheless). Nothing impressive really, no impressive hax to speak of
 
Seeing how a good amount of them are from massive speedblitz, I agree. I even tried to do something about it a while back.
 
I guess,i'll play the devil's advocate here then?since this is quite a stomp

So,there are actually two beings that even ODIN(a frigging skyfather) can't defeat and actually sometimes,stated to be stronger than him,Ymir and surtur.surtur is prophesised to one day cross bitfrost and destroy entire asgard singlehandedly.At Times,surtur has fought entire asgardians alone(includes peak thor(non odin force) and odin),and the best they could do is BFR him.Yea............. i guess the result comes down to If goku can beat a peak Odin(marvel) since surtur is stated to be stronger than even peak odin.
 
KazarianFahs said:
I guess,i'll play the devil's advocate here then?since this is quite a stomp
So,there are actually two beings that even ODIN(a frigging skyfather) can't defeat and actually sometimes,stated to be stronger than him,Ymir and surtur.surtur is prophesised to one day cross bitfrost and destroy entire asgard singlehandedly.At Times,surtur has fought entire asgardians alone(includes peak thor(non odin force) and odin),and the best they could do is BFR him.Yea............. i guess the result comes down to If goku can beat a peak Odin(marvel) since surtur is stated to be stronger than even peak odin.
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Does surtur have any of peak odin's hax?
 
No idea,he did fight on par and according to stories told by asgardians even overpowered odin,and made him need other asgardians to simply BFR him,if you ask me,that's some impressive Hax resistance,and we have yet to see surtur suffer any injuries or any of the sort when fighting entire pantheons of gods.
 
I think Goku is stronger than Odin but lacks hax resistance while surtur has no hax for goku.
 
Again as i have already pointed out,surter is practically on the higher end of the skyfather or even beyond the skyfather spectrum,since he fought and matched Odin at his peak and the entire asgardian army,alone,and they would have lost of they didn't BFR him,Also in another battle,Thor,odin and Loki were losing against surtur till they BFR'ed him.
 
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