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Complete Arceus vs. Alien X

ALIEN-X of cours as he is Omnipotent . Arceus attacks aren´t strong enogh to harm Alien-X (please read what´s in the screenshot about how durable he is) . Also i don't think even Thanos can defeat Alien-X .

Screenshot taken from the Ben 10 Wiki :

Capturar 2
 
SomebodyData said:
@Chris, I'm not sure you understand what it means to be omnipotent...

Please note that even Omnipotents can have weaknesses and they can be defeated but not killed . As Alien-X weaknesse are his personalities. Ben managed to overcome this weakness when he battled Galactic Gladiator , and has control ever since . I belive Alien-X hasn´t unleashed his Full power yet due to having only one battle showed in the series (against Galactic Gladiator).
 
Chris Leo said:
SomebodyData said:
@Chris, I'm not sure you understand what it means to be omnipotent...
Please note that even Omnipotents can have weaknesses and they can be defeated but not killed.
No, they can't. If you can't do something, you're not omnipotent (outside of the logical paradoxes that are just a pain to discuss).
 
Jucaslucas said:
Chris Leo said:
SomebodyData said:
@Chris, I'm not sure you understand what it means to be omnipotent...
Please note that even Omnipotents can have weaknesses and they can be defeated but not killed.
No, they can't. If you can't do something, you're not omnipotent (outside of the logical paradoxes that are just a pain to discuss).

So it comes to my attention that Alien-X omnipotence is questionable . The creator himself said he is omnipotent . However he defeated Galactic Gladiator from what we saw in the battle , so that means he is nigh-omnipotent ? BUT WAIT , the creator also said that if Alien-X would whant to destroy a Multiverse or an Omniverse , that would requier 6 thoughts , so he is Omnipotent after all ?

In conclusion (note that this is what i can conclude from all of this for now) he has omnipotent power , but it's level depends on the thoughts . While he was fighting Galactic Gladiator , Ben asked help from Serena and Belicus to fight along side him (he said earlier he can beat GG by his own hand , witch he did) , so he wasn't fighting at full power cuz 1/3 were fighting .

After all i just said i would like to ask to update Ben 10's profile page as it is veary unpolished please.
 
No. Most authors don't even use the term nigh-omnipotent or omnipotent correctly, furthermore, if he really stated that he can destroy a multiverse/ omniverse, then the profile would be much different.
 
SomebodyData said:
No. Most authors don't even use the term nigh-omnipotent or omnipotent correctly, furthermore, if he really stated that he can destroy a multiverse/ omniverse, then the profile would be much different.

I agree that the profile should be updated , like i said it is unpolished due to Ben's diferent transformations . And yes the creators did state that .
 
Well you can make an upgrade thread for that, a then if its accepted then it'll be added to Alien X's page
 
Wait a minute. Wouldnt that still be just universe to multi universe at best? The creator said that Alien X can destroy A universe with A thought. So if he used 6 thoughts that would mean he's busting 6 universes, 1 at a time per thought. Thats no where near multiversal lvl. I think the creator is using the word multiverse wrong, let alone omniverse
 
SomebodyData said:
Well you can make an upgrade thread for that, a then if its accepted then it'll be added to Alien X's page
Unfortunatly that is my problem . I made a thread requesting a profile update to Ben tennyson and Alien X . Please check : https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/327244?useskin=oasis

However someone commented that this is nonsense and demand to close my thread . He basically refused to belive and was against me even after i proved Ben 10 Wiki and creator statements .

This made me sad , as adminastrator Antvasima (i'd like to take this time to honorably mention him as the best contributor of the wiki) said that he can be stronger or not , and so i worked hard to prove he is stronger. Wiki rules say that creator statements are accepted . So what did i do wrong for the thread to be closed ? :'(
 
Hmmm it seems that after re-reading it and FictionalBlade's comment, it does seem the author isn't using the term correctly (Both a multiverse and the omniverse requireing the same amount of thoughts is absurd) by any chance has there been a time where Alien X has done something with a similar amount of thoughts?
 
There was no statement that specifies exactly how many Universes exist in said multiverse so 2-B is automatically discarded due to lack of evidence. When we scale a character to a destruction feat, it needs to be in one attack and we don't use the term omniverse. Omnipotence will be discarded automatically as Alien X is clearly bounded to the concept of dimensions. Omnipotence is a vague terminology that's inconsistent from user to user, and hence we go by our tiering system for guidance. Basically, making an upgrade thread on such a vague statement is very fallacious.
 
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