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Noctis vs Bayonetta

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Rules: Both Combatants at High 6-A
Speed is Equalized

Who Wins and Why?

Noctis: 1

Bayonetta: 7

Inconclusive:


Side Note: This is Noctis' first High 6-A Key to not make it an AP Stomp
 
It is borderline a stomp.

Noctis in almost all of his tiers are 1 exaton (unless you count Leviathan, which I guess is somewhere in the petatons.)

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I guess you can try Noctis vs Dante again, this time I can vote.
 
WeeklyBattles said:
The only one that wouldnt be a massive AP stomp is Noctis' first key
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Figured as much. I made a side note on that so things can be more even.
 
@Sins Bayo scales massively, massively above a 183 petaton feat, she should be relatively close to base noctis ap-wise
 
Yeah Weekly is still wrong.

Literally all of Noctis Tiers are 1 Exaton.

It is still very much an ap stomp in favor of noctis.

But I do like Noctis more then Bayonetta.

So uhh

Noctis cuz AP.
 
WeeklyBattles said:
@Sins Bayo scales massively, massively above a 183 petaton feat, she should be relatively close to base noctis ap-wise
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His first tier references Ifrit, and his second references Leviathan.

No issue other then the scaling is wonky.

Cuz Leviathan has 'lower' ap then Ifrit.

All the tiers are sadly an exaton lol for lack of feats.

Not sure why this isnt specified but you can ask Matt if you wanna fact check me.
 
SinsofMan said:
It is borderline a stomp.
Noctis in almost all of his tiers are 1 exaton (unless you count Leviathan, which I guess is somewhere in the petatons.)

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I guess you can try Noctis vs Dante again, this time I can vote.
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This is Noctis' first High 6-A Key. To make things more fair for Bayonetta. Also isn't Dante getting downgraded?
 
@Sins two things

1. Dante is getting downgraded

2. Bayo is stronger than people who fodderize things that fodderize things that are immensely stronger than things that are immensely stronger than things that are stronger than things that are 183 petatons with a small fraction of their power.
 
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Yeah I saw that, that is my bad.

I mean, you also said yourself it would be a stomp for any other tier.

I am just saying his AP is the same.

I could debate Noctis in this tier, but it should still be roughly give or take a gap of 8-10x.

...I think. Ask Ever or Matt.

Edit: I will be retracting the above, it shooouuld be fine (maybe.)

Ill vote soonish.
 
I know both characters quite well; Noctis may have somewhat the AP advantage but Bayo can counter it with damage negation, attack reflection, invincibility and her own summons moreover the lack of resistance to soul manipulation isn't doing any favours for Noctis.

Noctis does have some degree of time manipulation (as well as resistance to it too) but its nothing Bayo hasn't seen before.
 
Then def bayo fra. Thanks Axiom.

I honestly forgot what noctis had in his first key and even how his abilities work.

(I need to play 15 again.)
 
Well I guess we're doing this, was gonna delete it at first but if people wanna debate then alright. So that's 3 votes for Bayonetta
 
I will then 0_0. Just feels weird that a thread that hasn't been active in months all of a sudden is now being discussed again...not complaining though.
 
I feel that Noctis should have a far better chance at fighting Bayonetta that people seem to think. I mean he can blink through attacks, warp, summon the Royal Arms that each boost an attribute of himself.

He's held back the massive Titan fist. A being that has held up a Meteor and crushes ridges with every swing.
 
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