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Grandmother Raven vs Archie Sonic

MYHERO

MYHERO

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Now that Raven and the others are in 2-B, well soon will be I mean, I want to put her up against Sonic and see how far she can make it. Might be a stomp but she is able to haxstomp Arceus so I'm genuinely curious.

-2-B Raven

-Super Sonic

-SBA

-Speed equalized

I'm not taking votes obviously.
 
Zenkaibattery1 said:
Yes Raven and them
But Sonic is 2-A lmao.
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No you baka that link wasn't for you, it was for the others that don't know yet.
 
Zenkaibattery1 said:
In that case
4-D mind hax gg or she trolls and nullifies Sonic to High 4-C kek
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See. She does have a chance wait. She beats Sonic? Ah **** I brought this onto myself.
 
Sonic is 3D but he resists 2-A mindhax from Enerjak. He has resistance to power null as well.

Also funny how you mention Arceus because Sonic stomped Khorne.
 
Yeah this is a mismatch. I think I'm going to change it to someone weaker. Like Enerjak.
 
In all seriousness

What can sonic do to put Raven down?

Raven has many options such as

Sealing Sonic away like she did to Spider, which I doubt Sonic can stop. Especially since this sealing is extremely broken as it sealed a type 1 Abstract Being who has type 5 acausality, sealing away in 6 paradox chains of magic that no amount of Immeasurable speed, Teleportation and dimensional travel could save him from

Also, resistance to power nullification won't matter. She can bypass resistances and even immunaities to power null + this is passive

Raven seals

If anything it goes down to who strikes first, and I'm pretty sure Raven will strike first, especially since her powernull is passive and can disregard resistances and she can seal sonic easily
 
@MYHERO Anyways, the reason I said Grandmother Raven haxstomps Arceus is because Raven is a type 1 abstract representing a type 2 concept. Arceus can only manipulate concepts up to type 3 so he has zero way of affecting her.

Sonic's conceptual manipulation is type 2 and he's massively above baseline 2-A.
 
I should also mention that Sonic's aura nullifies magic used against him.

Sealing I suppose works, but I doubt power null would work against someone who is infinitely stronger and resists it.
 
She has decent resistance to Power Nullification and Absorption, as shown in the profile. And no, not all of her abiltiies are magic. Her Law Manipulation, Concept Manipulation and a few others are different. If sonics nullification is higher dimension in nature, it will once again go back to who strikes first. Raven's sealing was done so fast that Spider couldn't escape it. Furthermore, she can manipulate the laws of the universe to make Sonic lose. She has a multitude of ways to win + she can negate resistances and immunaties. At worst it's incon as it boils down to whoever can use their abilities first.
 
Sonic resists conceptual manipulation and law manipulation. He nullified magic from Master Mogul and Enerjak so yeah, it'll work here.
 
Then I suppose it boils down to who strikes first, if not it's probably a stomp is Sonic's favor. But I personally think it's more on the inconclusive side.
 
I like how at the beginning Zenkai started off saying Sonic's stomps but now insists it's an inconclusive.
 
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