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Janemba"s non canon profile (Shin bokudai)

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Could it be removed?

It's like making a novel momoshiki profile and have him go against franchises leagues beyond the actual standing of the franchise to rack up wins and satisfy fanboys.

That and unlike momoshiki in the novel who created a dimension Janemba simply caused disortions nothing was actually done? Spaces were being warped? Yet you play the game and nothing happened to neither hell/heaven or all the other location something catastrophic was to happen overtime has far as I'm aware.

Not only that but if you look at matches there are random users who simply answer the threads I'll leave it at that...

And having chars like galactus and others who regularly solo DB verse in his victories is bad publicity no matter how you look at it.

Idk i recall this place being pretty careful when it comes to popular franchises especially the most popular ones but it's changed , this place will look like a Dbz tard community with all those non canon profiles giving off misconceptions about the actual continuity however.

I mean what's next a multi universal gogeta?

Novel Naruto vs superman?

This thread will probably be strawmanning and most will disagree since this community has a lot of fans lol I'm expecting it but it's worth a try since it is pretty annoying too.
 
Have you not read my previous comment in Janemba's thread against Thanos? He has like 2 wins? are you kidding me? Are you telling me Beerus and Whis/vados also get removed? Ever since they got upgraded, threads about them have increased a lot. Seriously, IF you hate dbz that much then stop getting involve with it. Anyway I'm fully opposed to the idea of deleting Janemba's profile
 
It's ridiculous there are so many DB troll accounts who only answer to the threads and are really bias at times that and the fact that it's plain wrong Janemba beating opponents he shouldn't in his canon version gives off heavy misconception this community will look plain laughable
 
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Oh, in that case here comes my rebuttal.

-DB Troll Accounts: A-How do you know there are DB Troll accounts, B-Theres troll accounts for every verse, its literally impossible to remove

-Also what enemies couldn't Janemba beat? From what I've seen they're all in his league

-Ah his canon version too.... You like realize hes a non-canon character? Also, thats under the misconception that people can't read (Shin Budokai) in his profile. Really I doubt people are that dumb to confuse the versions.
 
Those chars have legitimate feats unlike Janemba? What feats of creating or destroying does he even have his warping caused nothing but something was to happen overtime iirc I could be wrong haven't played the game in a while.

Yes there are definitely troll accounts who simply answer the thread alone some even plainly obvious like in the Thanos thread now.

Why risk the wikis image for something that matters not?
 
Coleworld12 said:
Those chars have legitimate feats unlike Janemba?
What feats of creating or destroying does he even have his warping caused nothing but something was to happen overtime iirc I could be wrong haven't played the game in a while.

Yes there are definitely troll accounts who simply answer the thread alone some even plainly obvious like in the Thanos thread now.

Why risk the wikis image for something that matters not?
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-"legit feats" if this is your arguement then bring it up with the staff, they overlooked the creation of the page, which probably means your forgetting something

-I agree that troll accounts are a probelm. However, it would be better reporting them rather than deleting a page.

-A lot of pages bring risk, what should we delete the naruto pages for also bringing a risk?
 
Don't quote me please that's against the rules for whatever reason.

I've seen no effects of his warping doing anything and I'm certain the game has not given any.Hell was fine when Goku went to fight him.

They're only gonna make new accounts obviously..

They are backed up by legitimate calculations and feats and are canon so why would they bring any risk at all?
 
-Actually long responces are not to be quoted, but I will do your request

-I'm pretty sure you're thinking of how Hell that appeared in the movie, not the non-canon hell

-Every series has them, instead you should just tell the rule breaking thread

-Wankers. Downplayers. Trolls. They're everywhere, even with legit feats
 
Thx

No he fought in hell in shin bokudai.

They do I'll admit however it is pretty rare

Not really I"ve seen numerous Naruto or bleach threads
 
-By hell you mean with the jelly beans in the sky or the one with the fountain, because I'm pretty sure you didn't understand what I asked

-Ye, however, they are still contreversal and from time to time have threads trying to change them for wrong reasons.
 
We have several non-canon profiles existing on this Wiki with no "incidents" being reported. Janemba has what? only two wins right now, and so far no harm is coming of his profile existence so I see no reason as to why it should be removed.
 
The place with the jelly beans iirc could be the other world

Not out of line and actually in the continuity people don't mention feats they don't have as far as I'm concerned.This place is pretty strict regarding HST from everything I've seen so far.
 
My problem that it's a slippery slope to other issues.

It's either; A, yes we can do Non canon characters or B, we can't.
 
Exactly

I'm certain making a novel momoshiki profile or something wouldn't be accepted due to confusion and him being way over anyone in the actual continuity so I'm wondering why this one was?...
 
Well, personally I dislike the non-canon profiles. I think it started with all of the profiles for different versions of Superman, and now we might very well be on a slippery slope route.

I am trying to stem the tide as best as I can, but when people have pressured the staff enough, they have sometimes managed to get the profiles through.
 
Antvasima said:
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I am trying to stem the tide as best as I can, but when people have pressured the staff enough, they have sometimes managed to get the profiles through.
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Someone has to make a stand. /shrug.
 
Well, I have sent a message to Lord Kavpeny about it.

However, where exactly should we draw the line? Should we not allow the TV or movie versions of Marvel and DC characters as well? Or delete all Dragon Ball GT profiles? It is hard to discern what exactly that should be allowed, and what should not.
 
Antvasima said:
Well, I have sent a message to Lord Kavpeny about it.
However, where exactly should we draw the line? Should we not allow the TV or movie versions of Marvel and DC characters as well? Or delete all Dragon Ball GT profiles? It is hard to discern what exactly that should be allowed, and what should not.
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This is my problem. Either we kill everything under whatever category "game"/"non-canon" or we single out DB.
 
Well, we still cannot drown the wiki in non-canon profiles to the point of dilluting the originals.
 
However, I suppose that the current limited amount of them is no catastrophe.
 
Non canon profiles who already have a canon profile and are likely stronger than the real one is ridiculous it just dilutes the main one and continuity in general this one being by literal infinities

Might as well make a multi universal Gogeta or DB cast if we accepted this one since they do beat him...
 
Coleworld12 said:
Non canon profiles who already have a canon profile and are likely stronger than the real one is ridiculous imo in all honesty
Might as well make a multi universal Gogeta or DB cast if we accepted this one since they do beat him...
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We have non-canon movie profiles for characters who are so much weaker than canon versions it's ridiculous as well. MCU Hulk would be broken in half by the canon Comic Hulk.
 
The comics are known for having many versions and different writers as far as I'm concerned.

And there's also the issue of what's accepted and what's not? How's this accepted when same could be said about HST?
 
Well, if people are going to start pressuring me into allowing lots of non-canon profiles, I would rather delete all of the ones that we already have.
 
No Cole, Gogeta and the others won't be added as it was already established that Janemba will be the exception, not the norm to prevent the wiki from being flooded with non-canon information.

It doesn't seem to harm the community so I see no problem with it.
 
I honestly only have one problem with them( this is also happen in hades vs janemba)
many of the new comment they made is pretty much just the same comment that I or other already counter or something like that, So I pretty much have to repeat the same argument over and over and over again to the point this is not even funny anymore.

it will be better for them to actually read all the argument that have been made before comment something so I or who ever that opposed them is not going to repeat what we talking about over and over and over again.
 
But what would be considered "canon" here? Pre-Crisis Superman is not canon to the current version, and so ain't the Red Son Superman. Do we remove Pre-Crisis because he is no longer the main canon? It would seem absurd to remove pages simply because of canon or because there is 2 of them. The example of the Hulk like Shock said is also accurate at displaying this.
 
SomebodyData said:
But what would be considered "canon" here? Pre-Crisis Superman is not canon to the current version, and so ain't the Red Son Superman. Do we remove Pre-Crisis because he is no longer the main canon? It would seem absurd to remove pages simply because of canon or because there is 2 of them. The example of the Hulk like Shock said is also accurate at displaying this.
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True.
 
I don't want a Gogeta in the first place?

I don't want non canon profiles for neither the HST or DB either.

I just disagree with notion of giving exceptions and making ones who clearly dilute the canon ones and making people believe the character is far beyond what he actually is.
 
Not Jim Sterling said:
I honestly only have one problem with them( this is also happen in hades vs janemba)
many of the new comment they made is pretty much just the same comment that I or other already counter or something like that, So I pretty much have to repeat the same argument over and over and over again to the point this is not even funny anymore.
it will be better for them to actually read all the argument that have been made before comment something so I or who ever that opposed them is not going to repeat what we talking about over and over and over again.
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Thats a probelm of the person you're argueing (btw, you did the same) not the page
 
Antvasima said:
Well, if people are going to start pressuring me into allowing lots of non-canon profiles, I would rather delete all of the ones that we already have.
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TBH the Janemba profile might create a problem in future. I mean on wha basis are we allowing exception for Janemba?
 
Well, Pre-Crisis Superman was canon at one point, but Strange Visitor Superman never was for example.
 
Coleworld12 said:
I don't want a Gogeta in the first place?

I don't want non canon profiles for neither the HST or DB either.

I just disagree with notion of giving exceptions and making ones who clearly dilute the canon ones and making people believe the character is far beyond what he actually is.
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do you hate janemba because is strong?
 
Comic books are known for having many many different versions.

DB or HST not.

I just want to know where the line is drawn for non canon and what applies and what doesn't because it just seems like we're accepting whatever we feel like it.
 
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