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God Emperor of Mankind VS Son Goku

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So two beings who can barely be called Mortal who are protectors of Humanity and have fought Godly beings......so who would win in a fight.

Set in a planet the size of Jupiter in the Mortal world so no 1-C Emperor.

Both fighters are at their Peaks

Goku can use all
 
According to his profile here, there are two peaks for GEoM. Alive (4-A) and in the Warp (1-C).

Since you said no to the latter, Goku stomps.
 
Does godly ki prevent any soul attacks and hax from affecting the body, or does it still go through?

Anyways, Goku (SSB) should speedblitz if battle is started in standard distance (within 50-100m). Otherwise this is a stomp for the Emperor.
 
Crazystarf said:
Does godly ki prevent any soul attacks and hax from affecting the body, or does it still go through?
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No, godly ki doens't prevent any hax or external ability.

That being said, Goku speedblitzes with his superior speed and agility in short distances.
 
Azathoth the Abyssal Idiot said:
As it's like...the most important thing for this fight, what's the starting distance and what's the mindset?
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We'd go with standard battle assumptions, right? So, in-character but willing to kill, and at the highest range amongst combatants, or 4 kilometers, whichever is lower, I believe.
 
I believe he stated both are in their primes, meaning both are bloodlusted.

If this is going to be an unbiased fight, the fighters should stand from a distance where they could face each other properly while giving them space (100 to 200m in this case). This gives both fighters ample time to react assuming similar speed.

As for terrain, any surface on a planet like Earth would do; I'm sure both fighters have experienced all types of different terrain, so both fighters should adapt.

Edit: There doesn't seem to be a proper calculation for the Emperor's combat speed. I know there was a feat where he punched the void dragon, but how fast did the dragon move? (going to use this to try and figure out where the Emperor stands in terms of speed).
 
depending on the result of the calculation its either the god emperors favourite due to time stop, massive mindtwist and absolute erasing off existence on different layers of existence - feats

or goku blitzes and oneshots

can you link the calculation maybe?
 
We need the distance.

If it's less than a KM, Goku, if it's higher, GEoM.

Due to the speed difference.
 
Current Goku is atleast trillions(and more likely quadrillions) times FTL based onmpower increase since BoG billion times FTL calc,so GEoM needs to be atleast 100 million times FTL at 4 km distance to make a thought,let alone move
 
RavenSupreme said:
depending on the result of the calculation its either the god emperors favourite due to time stop, massive mindtwist and absolute erasing off existence on different layers of existence - feats
or goku blitzes and oneshots

can you link the calculation maybe?
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I believe the calculation is in my blog. It should be there.
 
Man from Shadow said:
Current Goku is atleast trillions(and more likely quadrillions) times FTL based onmpower increase since BoG billion times FTL calc,so GEoM needs to be atleast 100 million times FTL at 4 km distance to make a thought,let alone move
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According to Crazy's calculation, the Emperor is fast eough, as he's 1.2 billion times FTL at least.

So he uses Time Stop, which requires only a passive thought, and wins the fight.
 
The God Emporer of Mankind takes this with reality warping. Goku just can't deal with his Hax. For example precognition, time manipulation, matter manipulation and soul manipulation.
 
Goku is actually over 1,000 to 1,000,000 times faster than GEoM. That is such an enormous amount of speed difference that Goku may perceive GEoM to a standstill.

However, GEoM is very intelligent and cunning, and it would take a miniscule of a second to pull of something that could end the fight.

or he might not even make a dent in Goku at all while time's stopped due to the sheer difference in durability.
 
Holy smokes the dude is hax. How strong is his matter manipulation? That could make Goku's durability irrelevant if it's on atomic level.

Also illusion casting/telepathy...I don't know the potency of his hax but given Goku's lack of resistance to hax he could be screwed in this fight if it's strong enough
 
I mean GEoM has Soul Hax, so he'd easily beat Goku like that, but the issue comes down to the distance between them. If he has enough space between them, GE can freeze time and take Goku's soul or demolish him with molecular hax. Otherwise Goku will one-punch him due to vastly superior striking force.
 
GEoM has hax abilites that would make even Index and the Fate series jealous. Considering that he can attack the soul and freeze time. The Emperor's matter manipulation should at least be sub-atomic, maybe preon levels. If this comes in, Goku's durability may be irrelevant here.

Everything here is irrelevant if Goku speedblitzes however.

@Shanks: He should be corporeal for this fight to make this a match.
 
Ki attacks should be able to deliver damage to some of such entities. But as far as I remember it's not happening in DB.
 
An interesting way that GEoM can win this fight is if he slows down his perception of time before the fight. Goku will probably not notice something like this, and this gives the Emperor the reaction time needed to react to Goku's attacks.

This would also make the Emperor's attacks much stronger depending on how much time has slowed down, helping him if it comes to physical combat between Goku and the Emperor.
 
His Matter Maniuplation is on the peron level, his time stop is in combat (he used it against Horus) and did it instantly, allowing Horus to watch the entire death of his brothers (the Traitors).

His Soul Hax is much stronger than Magnus the Red, who often toyed with enemies from huge distance.

His Mental Domination is strong enough to Force the Entire Legion (24k Space Marines) of the Word Bearers to their Knees with a random thought.

Literally, if GEoM has the option to use his mind, he wins. That's the deciding factor.

He'll be able to do it within a KM.

For example, one of the Space Marines was infused with a fraction (less than 1%), and viewed the entire universe as in slow motion.

He has life manipulation, energy manipulation and nullifcation (was able to maniuplate the Webway, which is an alternative dimension composed of nothing but energy).
 
Aparajita said:
For example, one of the Space Marines was infused with a fraction (less than 1%), and viewed the entire universe as in slow motion.
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Do you have a link to this feat, by any chance? I know it exists, but unfortunately, my books don't have a ctrl+f function which makes it incredibly hard to find again. It'd just be nice to be able to link it on the profile.
 
Azathoth the Abyssal Idiot said:
Do you have a link to this feat, by any chance? I know it exists, but unfortunately, my books don't have a ctrl+f function which makes it incredibly hard to find again. It'd just be nice to be able to link it on the profile.
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If only my books had a ctrl+f function.
 
I was wondering, to what extent does time how to slow down so you see the universe in slow motion? Kinda wonder what the Emperor's true power is (outside).
 
Can Goku's Strongest Kamehameha kill or Knock-Out G.E.o.M?

If Goku can use his Quadrillion X's FTL speed and strikes him everywhere (punches, kicks, knees, elbows) and then use his Kamehameha, I think you will win.

Yes, God Emperor of Mankind has hax techs BUT Goku has the will to fight and win. he has the determined mind set. So Goku wins this.
 
1.2 billion times FTL?

It depends where you have Goku's speed,but considering increases he got,he should be able to speed blitz even from 4 km
 
If anyone here has knowledge of what happened in the Void Dragon incident, it would be greatly appreciated if you guys could check out my blogs. There is a section that is called "God Emperor Punches Void Dragon" that does the calculation for the Emperor's speed.

However, I am not exactly sure what happened (heard from Wiki and rumours), so if you guys know how long the dragon was flying from Earth as well as the speed of the Emperor from Earth to Mars, give some inputs in the comments section.

Edit: also 1.2 bil is proobably lowballing it. Use 12 bil instead.
 
Crazystarf said:
If anyone here has knowledge of what happened in the Void Dragon incident, it would be greatly appreciated if you guys could check out my blogs. There is a section that is called "God Emperor Punches Void Dragon" that does the calculation for the Emperor's speed.
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I did, actually. The Necrodermis is similar in material to the advanced Ceramite used by the Terminator Space Marines. So if we could get a weight for the Terminator armor, then we could get it's density.
 
@Aparajita: If it is possible for the Emperor to remove or increase the strength of an object towards himself through magic, it could be that the Emperor would have designed the armor to be incredibly light in order to maximize his speed.
 
Crazystarf said:
@Aparajita: If it is possible for the Emperor to remove or increase the strength of an object towards himself through magic, it could be that the Emperor would have designed the armor to be incredibly light in order to maximize his speed.
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It's possible, but there's nothing in the codexes or books that state anything of the sort. Only that the Ceramite is similar in makeup as the Necrodermis.
 
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