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Raimi Venom vs The Thing
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Perhaps
Perhaps not
Perhaps not
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Splattering the Thing is less then worthless as each gibblet becomes it's own functonal lifeform that is now trying to assimilate venom. Venom would need to be able to affect the Thing on a cellular level, which leads me to two questions.
- Shouldn't Venom have some kinda possession on his profile considering how the symboite works?
- Would the Symboite be able to posses the Thing?
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The Sam Raimi symbiote doesn't possess it's user. The user still have his free will. However, the user can still be corrupted by the symbiote, and the user can go anywhere from being an ass to straight up evil.
I remember a part in the movie where Peter took the symbiote to a scientist where he observed it under a microscope and explained how it worked. But the details of that scene is lost to me.
I remember a part in the movie where Peter took the symbiote to a scientist where he observed it under a microscope and explained how it worked. But the details of that scene is lost to me.
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If that explanation can be found somewhere that would be unbeleivably valulable.Sir Ovens said:
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Thank you The-User-Formerly-Known-As-Gargoyle.
Though I'm a bit confused now, cause the scientist says it's similar to chondrotic (I assume that's how it's spell) meteorites, so I found this and this and I'm not sure what to do with to do with that. My biology knowledge is all purely self taught and I'm by no means an expert.
Do we have any Biology majors in the building?
Though I'm a bit confused now, cause the scientist says it's similar to chondrotic (I assume that's how it's spell) meteorites, so I found this and this and I'm not sure what to do with to do with that. My biology knowledge is all purely self taught and I'm by no means an expert.
Do we have any Biology majors in the building?
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Somebody call for biology skills? Although I'm actually gonna have to draw on my Physics lessons for this. So snuggle up, and grab a blankie, while Mr. Azoth takes you through these meteorites, and how it impacts this battle.
Chondrites are strange old asteroids. They are actually the closest thing outside of planet Earth we have to organic life (Containing things like hydrocarbons, carboxylic acids, alcohols, ketones, aldehydes, amines, amides, sulfonic acids, phosphonic acids, amino acids, nitrogenous bases, etc), and are likely the reason why we have life on Earth in the first place. They are also really old, forming from the stellar nebula rather than the protoplanetary disk like other asteroids.
However, and the bit I presume you all have been waiting for, is how does this relate to Venom? The killer is that chondrites are not at all absorbant in the same way that other Venom incarnations and the Thing are. They form around the molocules that they contain through the process of accretio (super complex, just click the link). But, TL;DR, the way that chondrites contain and hold other molocules within them is by forming around said molocule, and trapping it.
It works in a similar way to magnets. Non-compatable molocules (for chondrites, those that were not found within the Sun's photosphere) will be repelled (similar to what happened in the animation). But compatible elements, such as the ones I linked above will be attracted, and contained. Which is, I presume, what the scientist meant, when he was discussing Venom. Rather than absorb, in the traditional sense, what Venom does is surround and contain compatible matter. Humans come under this description, as we are literally made out of what either the photosphere threw here, or what chondrites brought here. This is why the Venom suit acts the way it does. Sort of like accretion (there's that word again), but on a macro level.
How does all of this affect the battle? If the Thing is incompatible, Venom will passively repell it, almost like an invisible barrier for the Thing. But if it is compatible, then Venom will not repell it. In fact, the suit will actively attempt to enfold the Thing.
Do what you wish with this information
Chondrites are strange old asteroids. They are actually the closest thing outside of planet Earth we have to organic life (Containing things like hydrocarbons, carboxylic acids, alcohols, ketones, aldehydes, amines, amides, sulfonic acids, phosphonic acids, amino acids, nitrogenous bases, etc), and are likely the reason why we have life on Earth in the first place. They are also really old, forming from the stellar nebula rather than the protoplanetary disk like other asteroids.
However, and the bit I presume you all have been waiting for, is how does this relate to Venom? The killer is that chondrites are not at all absorbant in the same way that other Venom incarnations and the Thing are. They form around the molocules that they contain through the process of accretio (super complex, just click the link). But, TL;DR, the way that chondrites contain and hold other molocules within them is by forming around said molocule, and trapping it.
It works in a similar way to magnets. Non-compatable molocules (for chondrites, those that were not found within the Sun's photosphere) will be repelled (similar to what happened in the animation). But compatible elements, such as the ones I linked above will be attracted, and contained. Which is, I presume, what the scientist meant, when he was discussing Venom. Rather than absorb, in the traditional sense, what Venom does is surround and contain compatible matter. Humans come under this description, as we are literally made out of what either the photosphere threw here, or what chondrites brought here. This is why the Venom suit acts the way it does. Sort of like accretion (there's that word again), but on a macro level.
How does all of this affect the battle? If the Thing is incompatible, Venom will passively repell it, almost like an invisible barrier for the Thing. But if it is compatible, then Venom will not repell it. In fact, the suit will actively attempt to enfold the Thing.
Do what you wish with this information
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So Inconclusive the. Assuming the Thing is incompatable, Venom is much stronger and resists the Thing's assimilation process, but has no actual method to finish off the Thing. Even if the Thing is compatable, it still might be inconclusive considering the symbiote would just accret all over the Thing cells making some kinda Venom-Thing.
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Listen to this little gem
"The limited scientific analyses of the creature's cells by humans and 80's computer software has indicated that the organism's cellular structure is unlike any other life form native to the planet Earth"
As the Earth is nice in the way that our ecosystem is pretty much a snapshot of what the photosphere contains, a statement like that seems to imply that Venom would just find the Thing incompatiable
"The limited scientific analyses of the creature's cells by humans and 80's computer software has indicated that the organism's cellular structure is unlike any other life form native to the planet Earth"
As the Earth is nice in the way that our ecosystem is pretty much a snapshot of what the photosphere contains, a statement like that seems to imply that Venom would just find the Thing incompatiable
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Damn Crimson....
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This might be one of the most solid and in-depth assessments and analyses I've run into on this wiki.
Inconclusive FRA.
Inconclusive FRA.
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Yeah, icon FRA. I never thought all those months learning about carbonaceous chondrites would ever come in handy, but what do ya know?
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incon fra
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And that's grace. And the first Incon for the Thing.
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Wrong thread? Unless I missed some amazing Thing threads.
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Yep
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Incon fra
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Schnee One said:
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i like how i barely contributed other then reviving the thread a little bit
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I mean Crimson single-handedly ended all debate so... Not much more to contribute after that.
Also 4 hours on grace.
Also 4 hours on grace.
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grace ended this can be added
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On it.
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Oh god I haven't heard that in ages. Science Rulz.
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