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Demigra vs Agnès

Demigra, can deal with pretty powerful beings even those above him AP wise. One of the ways he dealt with Xenoverse Beerus is that since Beerus was still more powerful than him. Demigra created an Illusion clone that was constantly getting beaten by Beerus in order to keep Beerus occupied so that his energy could execute his plans.
 
Mind hax can be inflicted either passively by his evil energy, or directed at individuals. And the mind hax works on 4D beings like infinite Zamasu. He also has self ressurection that's quick enough to be combat applicable, and his clones and energy can act even while he is dead, so just killing him won't keep him down. Based on the profiles I think he has the advantage.
 
Yes, but what does he doe with it? cuz she resists things that cause delusion or delerium. Do they jsut simply drop dead from mind rape, or what? I never really had a doubt that it was in his capacity physically if nothing else. She also has auto ressurection, and can instant death him
 
His mind manipulation is ussualy used to control people to do his biding, although a few times it has been used to simply suck the power out of the controlled person. Its not a delusion or perception thing, more a pure control of mind and body agianst there will.

Well I don't see auto ressurect on her profile so I was going off the profiles, It may be legit but youd need to have a thread for it and prove it is combat applicable before it can be used. Although it still wouldn't stop mind manip so it likely wouldn;t turn the tide of this battle.

Insta death is good, but if it worked he would just ressurect stronger and his clones and energy would still be fine while hes dead so I just don't think even that is enough to permanently put him down. Demigra can mind hax, seal, BFR or absorb others so he has ways of stopping even people with crazy regen or ressurection.

Unless you could make a massive revision for her that's accepted with abilities to counter all that I'm gonna have to stick with Demigra on this one.
 
Alright. I may leen towards inconclusive because it basically just comes down to if he mind haxes or if she just uses one of her abilities to also one shot him

its in her spells:

Reraise: Agnès casts an enchantment that resurrects her should she fall in battle, but it only works once and thus must be reapplied.

True, but the summons would balance out his clones, and the undirected energy alone won't help due to her absorbing darkness and other elemental stuff.
 
Imma go with inconclusive since both have the capacity to kill in one hit, but I may change to Demigra later. this is a good fight
 
They have the capacity to effect Ouroboros. Either way, it doesnt matter, because as has already been established, she only resists certain kinds of mind hax, of which Demigra does not use
 
Well since she has to cast it ahead of time, and every time she wants to use it again, Demigra's seems much more reliable since if he or his clones kills her before casting at any point she can't come back, but he always can. I think they must have listed it as Regenerationn in abilities or some oversight but the skill is there.

In the end though I don't see her resisting his mind hax anyway since it is not a delusion or delirium, which basically is messing with the senses, it is mind and body control since even if they can fight it mentally the body remains under control to.

Also iirc she has limited SP that she can use before running out, so would eventually be unable to use many abilities including ressurection, so it isn't a permanent solution I would say.

I just don't see how she puts him down permanently with his passive ressurection, while he can potentially kill her before she casts ressurection, mind hax her, seal her or possibly absorb her.
 
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