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The_Wright_Way

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The Battle of the Century. The Rematch of Legends. Both at 4-B. No sundip or blue sun avaliable for Superman. Nothing is equalized. .... except speed.

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MYHERO said:
Can you be more specific with which versions?
It literally says "both at peak" in the OP and the versions tagged below both max out at 4-B. Tags are there for a reason.
 
It literally says "both at peak" in the OP and the versions tagged below both max out at 4-B. Tags are there for a reason.

Burp
 
From what I can see from them, besides being similar in power. Spider-Man has matter manipulation and energy manipulation, when Superman has that and much more like soul, mind, and time manipulation. I'm not completely saying Superman would beat Captain Universe Spidey, but the odds does tip to Superman's favor. For now I will need to hear more from others. You're welcome by the way.
 
If nothing is equalized, the first thing you look at is speed. Spiderman has no speed feats, so I went to the link of a character he scaled to. The page had Quasar. Quasar apparently scales to Heralds of Galactus. I went to Silver Surfer. The biggest feat I can see for speed with Silver Surfer is crossing the universe in minutes.

Superman wins via blitz.
 
Jawsome274 said:
Superman still has much more hax and more useful abilities, so I'm not changing my vote.
"More hax" isn't a countable reason I'm afraid. You'll need to specify.
 
MYHERO said:
From what I can see from them, besides being similar in power. Spider-Man has matter manipulation and energy manipulation, when Superman has that and much more like soul, mind, and time manipulation. I'm not completely saying Superman would beat Captain Universe Spidey, but the odds does tip to Superman's favor. For now I will need to hear more from others. You're welcome by the way.
It says that he resists those things, not that he has them. Hense why they're listed after Resistance.
 
DeathstroketheHedgehog said:
If nothing is equalized, the first thing you look at is speed. Spiderman has no speed feats, so I went to the link of a character he scaled to. The page had Quasar. Quasar apparently scales to Heralds of Galactus. I went to Silver Surfer. The biggest feat I can see for speed with Silver Surfer is crossing the universe in minutes.

Superman wins via blitz.
Fixed.
 
It says that he resists those things, not that he has them. Hense why they're listed after Resistance.

Oh. My bad. I don't want to make the excuse that I'm new here but I actually am so I wasn't careful whoops.
 
But that just means that Spider-Man's hax won't work on Superman. So now we need to compare the physical stats for each character.
 
The Wright Way said:
Jawsome274 said:
Soul manip, Mind manip, Time manip and stop
Those powers that he doesn't have because his profile specifies that he resists them.
Oh whoops. Superman still has absorbation though, right? Correct me if absorbation isn't hax.
 
The Wright Way said:
DeathstroketheHedgehog said:
Fixed what?
Speed is now equal.
Well damn.


I took a quick skim. I'm probably wrong via rushing, but Superman clocks in at 1e47 joules while Spiderman compares to Thor who's strength and durability should be comparable (because Marvel's characters on vsbattle wiki are just scaling after scaling after scaling). From what I saw, Thor was at 2e46, so Superman is essentially five times stronger.

That, and Superman has much more versatile abilities and experience, both via age alone and due to actually being cosmically strong for most of his life.

I still give it to Supes.
 
3.926981040579868e+46 joules for Supes actually. In calcs with multiple results we tend to use the mid-end usually.
 
Thor is also listed as stronger than Silver Surfer who is 387.81406 KiloFoe going off his page. What Kilofoe does Supes feat put him?
 
Dust Collector said:
The Wright Way said:
Thor is also listed as stronger than Silver Surfer who is 387.81406 KiloFoe going off his page. What Kilofoe does Supes feat put him?
Supes is 616 KiloFoe.
"616" This has to be a joke.


But anyways, if Superman is 616 kilofoe, then he still has the strength, versatility, and experience advantage. My vote still stands.
 
The Wright Way said:
Guys, the tags read Post Crisis Superman. It's not that hard to scroll down. Seesh.
Most vs. threads tell which version of the character you're using, or else SBA takes over and you're using the most powerful version, which in this case is 2-C Superman vs. 4-B Spider-Man.
 
Most vs. threads tell which version of the character you're using, or else SBA takes over and you're using the most powerful version, which in this case is 2-C Superman vs. 4-B Spider-Man.

That's only with separate keys on a character's page. With profiles, you can just look at the topics.

Also, High 2-A and High 1-B versions of Superman exist.
 
Superman's Superior AP, Mindset and overall versatility especially with heat cocoon and ice breath for Webs give him an easy win
 
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