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Raiden vs General Grevious (Concluded)

Stillwinston

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Seeing as how my last thread wasn't a properly debated one I figured why not go for another.

Speed is equalised. Battle takes place in a hanger bay of a star destroyer. Both start 6 metres away with no prep time. 7-C versions are being used. Raiden has HF Blade, Ripper mode, Blade mode and Grevious starts with all four lightsabers.

Time for Jack to let er rip! - 1

I will grant you a warrior's death! - 7

Inconlusive - 0
 
Yeah, lightsabers don't exactly ignore durability.

I think Grievous is more experienced and more skilled, on top of being stronger than even Raiden at his peak. Speed's equalized, so that just leaves skill and strength, both of which Grievous has the advantage in, along with strategy, though Jack probably has some versatility advantages with all his equipment. He has stamina, too.

I dunno. Depends whether or not Jack can cut into those guts before Grievous overpowers and maims him.
 
I think Grievous should take this FRA. Aside from what Prom said, 4 arms are better than 2 and 4 swords are better than 1. Grievous also consistently fights characters who are much more versatile and haxed than Raiden; he's killed various Jedi.
 
I mean...

Raiden has electric amping for his fists.

Maybe he can cause major damage with his punches rather than HF Blade?

I mean, it's not like Grevious' organs are exactly insulated.
 
DarkDragonMedeus said:
I think Grievous should take this FRA. Aside from what Prom said, 4 arms are better than 2 and 4 swords are better than 1. Grievous also consistently fights characters who are much more versatile and haxed than Raiden; he's killed various Jedi.
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What reasons?

Prom doesn't even know
 
Way I see is this is a battle of OHK. If Raiden can land a clean hit on Grevious I don't think his cybernetics can endure a durability bypassing HF Blade. But Grevious has better strength and more weapons. Could Raiden find a gap in the lightsabers via Blade Mode?

Currently 1 vote for Grevious and 0 for Raiden.
 
Grievous still has the Attack Potency Advantage. And yes, Raiden is very versatile, but so are nearly every Jedi in the Star Wars franchise. And much of those Jedi also have Telekinesis, sense moves, instinctive reactions, ect. Truth be told, Grievous usually gets his ass kicked a lot, at least from what I sean from the Disney Canon version. But he was able to take out a Jedi Knight single handedly before. ESU from the Tardekaski Clone Wars was a different story; that one was a real badass.

Raiden would still give him a really good fight, but I'm still leaning towards Grievous. He's physically stronger and still has 4 lightsabers to boot also.
 
Non of the Jedi actually use said advantages though

Heck, Grievous's entire move set incilves striking fear so that they don't.
 
Matt's probably the best judge here, he's very knowledgeable on both verses.
 
As is the guy who did most of the revisions for Star Wars being 5B.

Also, the versatility isn't an argument because Grievous himself actively states he would get crushed by Jedi if they had a focused mind, as striking fear prevents using the force.

When he does go against someone with a calm mind https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PKgv6xyY5MM
 
Yeah, Grievous's entire thing is basically Batman-ing the Jedi so they don't think to use their best stuff. Without the forethought that usually goes into him getting his theatricality in order, or when going up against someone where that just doesn't work he tends to lose his momentum very quickly. Raiden's not the type to be easily intimidated and his very likely to use his best stuff when confronted with a multi armed cyborg. Going with Raiden here.
 
Actually, I'm pretty sure Grievous should be High 7C.

He also AP stomps here as he's almost 6x stronger
 
Okay so currently at 2 votes for Grevious, The Wright Way are you still voting Raiden?

Way I see it with AP its not really gonna matter because both can OHK the other, Raiden has his HF Blade which if it connects with anything but the lightsabers should slice it up. Grevious has his lightsabers of course. We did suggest that the HF Blade can clash with lightsabers yeah?
 
Question. Why would the HF Blade be able to block a Lightsaber?

It's composed of Plasma, the HF Blade is a vibrating metal blade. Even if it did cut through a lightsaber, the plasma upon contact would melt the darn thing
 
Well there's Vibroblades in Star Wars but I'm not sure if we can scale the HF Blade to that, anyone know the hottest thing the blade went up against so we can gauge its limits? If it can't theortically take a single hit from a lightsaber then fair enough but still.
 
Bump, currently at 1 vote for Raiden and 2 for Grevious. Also wanting to ask maybe we should unequalise speed?
 
Both can one-shot, but lightsaber cuts through HF.

Grevious mid-high diff FRA
 
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