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9-B vs 4-A I am not sure if this is a stomp or not

Ugh

Is Madara able to touch Marie without getting blasted?

Because Kain is basically Marie.
 
Cain is protected by the presence The mark of cain reflects all damage 7x over to the point where even lucifer didn't want to attack him, so it works on a 1-A scale
 
Yakou madara has info manip to where he can see the information about cain on outerversal level.
 
Not that it matters since the Yakou who Cain fight isn't the real Yakou (As noted in his Mukei, the true Yakou is stuck in the Throne)

Not that Yakou would even attack Cain with his precog.

Tbh thought, maybe the curse can be overpowered by higher 1-A shit? And if so how much?

Yakou summons, Teirei and Niko, effectively can suicide kill Numahime, who's like, infinitely above 1-As whom are infinitely above other 1-As (repeat for 36 times)
 
Actually, does Cain resist mindhax?

Yakou can just use his Power Word to knock him out (doesn't harm Cain or smth. Just makes him loses consciousness)
 
They can merge to become a 1-A being

And it's combat applicable if you want to ask
 
"Yakou summons, Teirei and Niko, effectively can suicide kill Numahime, who's like, infinitely above 1-As whom are infinitely above other 1-As (repeat for 36 times)"

I don't know how much high on the 1-A scale they are but they killed a 1-A being on this level
 
Replace the 36x

Replace it with 1000x

Then you have the Presence

This isn't even counting that he's basically an even more NLF Fiamma of the Right
 
How so exactly?

His profile doesn't note anything in particular that makes me think it's 1000x

Everyone as a 1-A is NLF lol

And i stated it is "an infinite amount of times above a 1-A whom should be infinitely above other 1-A whom are infinitely above other 1-A" not just a normal "I'm stronger than you 36x time"
 
Presence can grow stronger by comparison to those around him wothin an extremely short amount of time even if they manage to somehow surpass him.

It's Such an NLF it's impossible to assume the summon would or would not win out and thus determining who wins is, no offense, kinda dumb.

Inconclusive?
 
That's the same with Hajun lol

Then yeah i think so

I didn't know about this so RIP :P
 
Even the Spectre can grow stronger that it can be NLF

When the Spectre was thrown in "The Void beyond Voids" instead of being erased, the Spectre became 1-A and merged with the said Void. The Spectre is just an embodied thought of God as said by the Spectre himself.

Also, inconc
 
also inconclusive, from me.
 
This is just Yakou vs the Presence and Dream, guess I'll also go incon.
 
Wokistan said:
This is just Hajun vs the Presence and Dream, guess I'll also go incon.
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Cause funny enough, harming Yakou is equal to fighting Hajun himself
 
He's part of Hajun in some fashion, actually. Don't remember if he's a sensory or an apoptosis.
 
I call inconclusive too. Yakou's Precog has him go like "Nuh uh. I ain't dealin' with that," and just stares at Cain from a distance.

Though, couldn't Yakou pull a Kurama and gently and easily move Cain out of bounds or something? Like gently tie him to train tracks?
 
I don't think the presence or dream would have any of that, and Cain probably wouldn't just let himself get tied.
 
This thread reminds me that Yakou needs a Type 9 Immortality added to his profile

But **** me being a lazy ass
 
Yakou>>>Dream of the endless. So cain does not resist the mind hax. Unless you guys prove Endless of the dream is at 10 degrees of transcends of 1-A
 
When someone got graced by the Presence to such a level that not even Lucifer Morningstar will touch him the chances of someone lightyears behind Lucifers power with enough precog to know what will happen if he tries any shenanigans will sure as hell pack his stuff and go.

Inconclusive.
 
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