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I have concerns with his speed, but for this I'm going to be addressing the Mario Galaxy attack potency/durability listings. Pleas remember I love the Mario series and I've played Galaxy 1 and 2 several times, so please do not thing I'm just some shmuck making a thread out of nowhere.
I'll start with Mario's durability. Mario is listed as "Multi-Galaxy level" for being able to take hits from Bowser who was "consuming celestial matter". First off, he ate a power star about twice Mario's height, that's really different from eating an entire galaxy. Secondly, eating something != punching with that force. Over time I can eat a gorilla but that does not mean I can punch with superhuman strength.
Mario's attack potency is listed as "Multi-Galactic" as well for "defeating Bowser who was powerful enough to gradually destroy the universe". There are two issues with this. First being that destruction via magic != having that level of durability. Second being that Bowser literally never does that. His reactor destroys the universe, not him. You beat Bowser in Galaxy 2 with some small gold meteors anyway, that isn't Mario's strength, and through this logic that'd mean that those meteors had Multi-Galactic mass despite being made from what appears to be rock.
Now I'm going to take a look at Bowser's stats.
First off, the destructive capacity is not Multi-Galactic as mentioned earlier. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt though and say that the portal in the background is a black hole which means he'd have star-level creation at that level, which doesn't seem too off considering he just got the power of, well, a Grand Star. But this does not mean he has star-level punches or any of that.
His durability is also listed as "Multi-Galactic" for "surviving a black hole that ended the universe. This feat is also what likely lead credence to the "Multi-Galactic Mario" stats. However, if you play through the game you can see this is clearly not the case.
The black hole kills everyone, Mario is saved by Rosalina's power, she recreates the universe. We even see planets and ships being destroyed as they're pulled in, only to appear fine and dandy in the next scene. If this was a Multi-Galactic feat, then Princess Peach, Bowser Jr., some goombas, bees, and grass would also be Multi-Galactic level.
Just through what Rosalina describes is happening and through what happens in the next scene, it isn't hard to see that Bowser did not survive that black hole.
So where would I place Mario and Bowser from Galaxy?
Well, using the star durability calc, Mario would be country level for being able to beat Bowser (who was able to survive in a star for a few seconds), and Bowser would have country level durability. Grand Star Bowser would be 4-C via creation feats with an unknown durability and striking, although it probably isn't too high up there due to the whole being defeated through small meteors thing.
I'll start with Mario's durability. Mario is listed as "Multi-Galaxy level" for being able to take hits from Bowser who was "consuming celestial matter". First off, he ate a power star about twice Mario's height, that's really different from eating an entire galaxy. Secondly, eating something != punching with that force. Over time I can eat a gorilla but that does not mean I can punch with superhuman strength.
Mario's attack potency is listed as "Multi-Galactic" as well for "defeating Bowser who was powerful enough to gradually destroy the universe". There are two issues with this. First being that destruction via magic != having that level of durability. Second being that Bowser literally never does that. His reactor destroys the universe, not him. You beat Bowser in Galaxy 2 with some small gold meteors anyway, that isn't Mario's strength, and through this logic that'd mean that those meteors had Multi-Galactic mass despite being made from what appears to be rock.
Now I'm going to take a look at Bowser's stats.
First off, the destructive capacity is not Multi-Galactic as mentioned earlier. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt though and say that the portal in the background is a black hole which means he'd have star-level creation at that level, which doesn't seem too off considering he just got the power of, well, a Grand Star. But this does not mean he has star-level punches or any of that.
His durability is also listed as "Multi-Galactic" for "surviving a black hole that ended the universe. This feat is also what likely lead credence to the "Multi-Galactic Mario" stats. However, if you play through the game you can see this is clearly not the case.
The black hole kills everyone, Mario is saved by Rosalina's power, she recreates the universe. We even see planets and ships being destroyed as they're pulled in, only to appear fine and dandy in the next scene. If this was a Multi-Galactic feat, then Princess Peach, Bowser Jr., some goombas, bees, and grass would also be Multi-Galactic level.
Just through what Rosalina describes is happening and through what happens in the next scene, it isn't hard to see that Bowser did not survive that black hole.
So where would I place Mario and Bowser from Galaxy?
Well, using the star durability calc, Mario would be country level for being able to beat Bowser (who was able to survive in a star for a few seconds), and Bowser would have country level durability. Grand Star Bowser would be 4-C via creation feats with an unknown durability and striking, although it probably isn't too high up there due to the whole being defeated through small meteors thing.