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Sonic vs. Mario

NXGN said:
Mario stomps Super Archie Sonic with hax.
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2-B haxing a 2-A. Not impossible but it's not really something Mario is capable of doing. Especially since Marios is one of the least haxed 2-B's on this site.
 
1st round: Sonicverse murders due to Marioverse caps at 2-B, while Sonicverse caps at High 2-A.

2nd round (Bonus round): Sonicverse speedblitzes
 
I'm not even trolling. Mario can use the pure hearts to negate his durability and increase his own. He also has the star rod and the white tanooki suit. Tiers aren't everything when Hax is envolved
 
> Immeasurable Vs. MFTL+

> Saying MFTL+ wins

Not trying to insult you, because I truly respect everyone on this wiki, but that is nonsense.
 
ShakeResounding said:
> Immeasurable Vs. MFTL+

> Saying MFTL+ wins

Not trying to insult you, because I truly respect everyone on this wiki, but that is nonsense.
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Look I understand you think it's nonsense but Mario beating Soncinit what I say. Infinite Speed and Hax.
 
NXGN said:
ShakeResounding said:
> Immeasurable Vs. MFTL+

> Saying MFTL+ wins

Not trying to insult you, because I truly respect everyone on this wiki, but that is nonsense.
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Look I understand you think it's nonsense but Mario beating Soncinit what I say. Infinite Speed and Hax.
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You don't get it don't ya? Immeasurable > Infinite and Mario's hax probably wouldn't affect Sonic because Sonic is infinitely stronger. Plus Mario's speed isn't even Infinite anyways.
 
Mario's speed is infinite dude because of the void and Dimensional rifts in Mario sunshine. Hax can affect Sonic because Sonic has not shown any feats that would put him in a 5 Dimensional scale. I hope you can understand this someday.
 
Both characters are under baby level, since they die just by touching turtles,goombas, cute little robots and spikes, but sonic takes this easily since he runs fast
 
Sonicverse takes both rounds. But in terms of details, I'll just look at at non-archie Sonicverse vs Marioverse. Nobody in the Marioverse has a reliable way to perminatly kill Solaris without knowing about the Candle of Solaris accept Super Dimentio. Illumna hard counters both the Dream and Dark stone, and possibly the Zeekeeper. Time Eater alone solos 90% of the verse in less than a blink of an eye. To put it simply, let me put the characters in this battle with just the tier 2 characters. Also I'm assuming that all characters start in their most powerful form.

Sonicverse: Super Sonic, Super Shadow, Super Silver, Fleetway SS, God Robotnik, Time Eater, Egg Wizard, Solaris, Erazor Djinn and Illumina

Marioverse: Dreamy Bowser, Rosilina, Paper Mario (With Pure Hearts), Zeekeeper, Count Bleck, Super Dimentio, Antasma (With the Dark Stone) and Metabug

I didn't include the likes of King Boo because, you know, MSS dura. Now then, the Super Forms, Time Eater and Solaris have infinite speed. Anything below 2-C was dead before I thought of this sentance in my head. Dreamy Bowser and Antasma are dreamhaxxed back to MSS by Illumina and are also dead before you finished reading this sentance. Bleck and Dimentio's power sources are gone because pure hearts. They are both also dead. Now let's see the lineup.

Super Sonic, Super Shadow, Super Silver, Fleetway Super Sonic, God Robotnik, Time Eater, Egg Wizard, Solaris, Erazor Djinn and Illumina vs Paper Mario and The Zeekeeper.

Marioverse vs Non-Archie Sonicverse is not the question of the bonus round, it's who would win between a team consisting of two Low 2-Cs, seven 2-Cs and one 2-B against two 2-Bs.

Oh, and I forgot to mention. While we were having that chat Paper Mario and the Zeekeeper defeated everyone but Illumina via thousands of times better AP. Not that it matters, as Illumina has immeasurable speed, and in reality everybody in the Marioverse died yesterday before anybody in the Marioverse even knew what a "Sonic" was.
 
NXGN said:
Mario's speed is infinite dude because of the void and Dimensional rifts in Mario sunshine. Hax can affect Sonic because Sonic has not shown any feats that would put him in a 5 Dimensional scale. I hope you can understand this someday.
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No offense, but you're clearly wanking Mario and downplaying Sonic right now. Mario having "Infinite speed" was already debunked and if Sonic doesn't have 5-D feats then make a Content Revision Thread then.
 
Orionhamake said:
Both characters are under baby level, since they die just by touching turtles,goombas, cute little robots and spikes, but sonic takes this easily since he runs fast
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something called inconsistences
 
M+S=Greatness said:
Smashor, do you hate Mario?
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I don't hate Mario, but I feel he should have varies instead of just 4-A due to how inconsistant he is. Heck, in his reasoning, it says that he's 4-A due to scaling to Luigi who defeated King Boo, who created a dimention with several stars. This would be fine. Then I clicked on King Boo's page and clicked on the video with this feat. It shows his boss fight from Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon. Still no problems. The problem? The background during the boss fight is purple swirls with no stars at all
 
round 1: archie ultra sonic stomps

round 2: the gentle pull solos

now, for more in-depth, this is how the tierings go imo

Mario fodder (Goombas, Koopas, Shroobs) + Mario low tiers (Tatanga) < Classic sonic tiers (8-A, stuff like classic sonic, fang the sniper, silver sonic) < the kongs < base sonic characters (high 6-A, includes all non-super tiers) < wario tiers (low 5-B)

now the sonic 4-As vs the mario 4-As

we know that mario, luigi and yoshi > super sonic, tails and knuckles. we also know there are more characters that are 4-A and scale to mario (nearly all mario heroes, bowser, kamek, king boo, koopalings + bowser jr, most major villains) than characters that are 4-A and scale to super sonic (I counted around 10)

finally the higher tiers

the mario series has 6 2-Bs: super dimentio, count bleck with the chaos heart, paper mario with the pure hearts, the zeekeeper, antasma with the dark stone and bowser with the dreamy stone. the sonic series has a lot of 2-Cs (super sonic characters that scale to solaris) but only one 2-B (illumina). even if we say that the 2-Bs cannot beat illumina due to illumina being immeasurable, the gentle pull comes in and IS OMNIPRESENT.

yeah i think mario verse takes this in round two, but gets destroyed round one
 
it's possible that it has control over the dream depot which should make its AP greater than the zeekeeper and other 2-Bs

this is all speculation anyway. if you argued that the gentle pull was 2-C instead then yeah sonic verse would probably win
 
GyroNutz said:
the gentle pull comes in and IS OMNIPRESENT.
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Omnipresent doesn't blitz Immeasurable tho. Idk why people always think that it blitzes Immeasurable and start to equalize speed when it's Omnipresent vs Immeasurable.
 
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