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Madara Uchiha vs Dio Brando

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Some of the most popular anime villains around!! But who wins in a fight?

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...how about here? Here looks good.

No prior knowledge, both are fully in-character and seeking victory through death, incapacitation, KO, or similar. Who takes it? Stating your reasoning would be appreciated.
 
Dio stops time and crushes Madara with his steam roller, as soon as he crushes him he yells out WRYYYYYYYYYYY.....jk lol, inconclusive. Madara has way too much Power and Durability to be hurt by Dio but Dio has FTL reactions, that and The World is FTL+.
 
Should probably point out that both are at maximum power, just so everyone is sure.
 
ThePerpetual said:
Should probably point out that both are at maximum power, just so everyone is sure.
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Yeah but Dio's reaction is WAY above Madara's speed, though Madara is extremely more powerful and more durable than Dio, Limbo clones would most likely be countered by The World as neither Dio can see the Limbo clones nor Madara can see the World.
 
Stands are proven to be living beings. They die if the stand user dies unless it's requiem.

With that being said even with time stop he has nothing that can put Madara down or even significantly damage him as well as the fact that Madaras limbo reside in another world so all he'd need to do is summon them and it's a wrap from there his time stop wouldn't work on his limbo and he'd get his soul sucked.Dio would last long with his time stop and far greater speed but he'd end up losing regardless.
 
CHILLVIBEZZ said:
Stands are proven to be living beings.
They die if the stand user dies unless it's requiem.

With that being said even with time stop he has nothing that can put Madara down or even significantly damage him as well as the fact that Madaras limbo reside in another world so all he'd need to do is summon them and it's a wrap from there his time stop wouldn't work on his limbo and he'd get his soul sucked.Dio would last long with his time stop and far greater speed but he'd end up losing regardless.
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The same can be aplied to Madara, if he breaks the rules of a stand he will get sucked into a world that ignores time and space. (doesn't make much sense ) but as soon a he hit the world he would have vanished, so pretty much is either Madara win via Limbo or Dio via The World.
 
CHILLVIBEZZ said:
Interesting and what does this world do?
Also even so doesn't Madara have Kamui to just warp himself out?
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The World it's basically Dio's Stand, it's purpoused is to protecting Dio, usually you can get rid of The World only if you have a Stand, anyone who touches a Stand without another Stand break the rule of a Stand, kinda like Limbo but instead of sucking your soul it literally sends you to another dimensional plane with no type of comeback. Though attacks that can hit on other dimentional planes work too.

I don't know if Madara can escape it with Kamui, I mean it pretty much ignores space and time and most likely space time techniques wouldn't work, I might be wrong of course.
 
I think than Madara got this, by a close fight... until The World Over Heaven appears; then, Dio can be as strong as Giorno with GER. But this is just speculations
 
@CaptainFalcon64

I see we'll I'm pretty sure I answered the part of the stand. If the stand owner dies then the world shall die also . The damage that Dio receives is mirrored back to the world this catch can only be avoided if the stand is hit with the requiem arrow.Which the world of Dio has never had. In other words Madara kills Dio and the world shall die the same way he did.

Also you said that it basically sends you in a different dimensional plane right? They're both fighting on the physical plane not sure teleportation would work myself... However if Madaras immortality is anything like Kaguyas via shinju three then he can still revive his physical form if anything happened he'd be chakra for a while however.
 
CHILLVIBEZZ said:
@CaptainFalcon64
I see we'll I'm pretty sure I answered the part of the stand. If the stand owner dies then the world shall die also . The damage that Dio receives is mirrored back to the world this catch can only be avoided if the stand is hit with the requiem arrow.Which the world of Dio has never had. In other words Madara kills Dio and the world shall die the same way he did.

Also you said that it basically sends you in a different dimensional plane right? They're both fighting on the physical plane not sure teleportation would work myself... However if Madaras immortality is anything like Kaguyas via shinju three then he can still revive his physical form of anything happened he'd be chakra for a while however.
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Yeah but I'm not sure if Madara CAN hit Dio to land the killing blow, Having FTL reactions pretty much counters that, not also that but the World is FTL+ itself, and anything that touches it automatically get's send to that dimensional plane.

Though if Madara's Immortality is like Kaguya's then Dio is not winning then.
 
Yeah I pretty much agree however the argument was also limbo. His time stop shouldn't work on limbo and no one should be able to see it .Same goes for his stand Madara would take a beating from it but not perceive it.

But yeah it depends on his immortality.
 
CHILLVIBEZZ said:
Yeah I pretty much agree however the argument was also limbo.
His time stop shouldn't work on limbo and no one should be able to see it .Same goes for his stand Madara would take a beating from it but not perceive it.

But yeah it depends on his immortality.
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True but he could time Freeze Madara himself and make The World touch him and simply send him to that Dimension, meanwhile Madara's clone sneak up on Dio and hit him once killing him.
 
Madara takes this

  • Dio's movement speed is Hypersonic+, before Dio can get in close to Madara, Madara blows up the continent, gg
  • Madara has an undetectable Limbo Clone sneak up behind Dio, and hit Dio with a Moon Level attack, gg
  • Madara uses Infinite Tsukuyomi, gg
  • Even if Dio sends Madara to a different dimension, Madara's Limbo Clones would still do in Dio
 
UncleSpaceman said:
Madara takes this
  • Dio's movement speed is Hypersonic+, before Dio can get in close to Madara, Madara blows up the continent, gg
  • Madara has an undetectable Limbo Clone sneak up behind Dio, and hit Dio with a Moon Level attack, gg
  • Madara uses Infinite Tsukuyomi, gg
  • Even if Dio sends Madara to a different dimension, Madara's Limbo Clones would still do in Dio
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Let me debunk your wank:

1- The World moves at FTL+ speeds. The World can hit Madara before he reacts.

2- The World is also undetectable, it can also sneak up behind Madara, if it touches Madara is over.

3- Dio doesn't have Chakra.

4- Madara has no way of getting back at the moment so he would still loose as he would be stuck in a place that ignores time and space for eternity.
 
Let me debunk your down-play

  • You're making a massive NLF, has The World ever effected anyone with Moon Level durability?
  • Infinite Tsukuyomi effected cats, cats don't have chakra. Furthermore, Kaguya used infinite tsukuyomi on the people of earth, before they obtained chakra
  • Your point? Limbo clones exist in the world of limbo even if Madara was sent to a different dimension, the Limbo Clones would not go away, they would kill Dio
 
"Dio doesn't have Chakra."

Didn't someone debunk that a little while ago, the whole "Naruto hax only works on Naruto characters" thing? Or am I just imagining things?

...or is because Dio is undead, not technically a conventional living being?
 
ThePerpetual said:
"Dio doesn't have Chakra."Didn't someone debunk that a little while ago, the whole "Naruto hax only works on Naruto characters" thing? Or am I just imagining things?
...or is because Dio is undead, not technically a conventional living being?
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The whole hax thing only works for Kaguya
 
@UncleSpaceman Really? not that im questioning you or anything i just wanna see the thread. So can you link it?
 
SomebodyStupid

It's not a single thread, it's the accumulation of multiple vsbattles with Naruto characters, where irrc people agreed that Naruto hax do work on people without chakra.

Otherwise, the same thing could be said about HxH, Bleach, Dragon Ball, etc.
 
If I recall correctly, the more specific consensus was that chakra was to Naruto what life force, ki, soul is to other verses, and therefore should work similarly on other living beings. Hence, why I wondered how Dio being a vampire would factor into things.
 
I too remember one page of the manga with the younger naruto where it is explained that genjutsu works through some chakra system in the body or something. Then again I not that good at remembering stuff from Naruto its been a long since ive read it so i could be wrong, not that it matters right now since Dio is well dead. I would have to say Dio
 
@CaptainFalcon64

Nah looking at Madaras powers and abilities he wins actually. His immortality I didn't research properly.

However even if the world sent him to another dimensional plane he could still come back via izanagi he can rewrite events that occurred in reality.
 
Madara stomps...

Dio cannot hurt Madara, because Madara has Moon Level durability versus Dio's Country Level AP.

If Madara gets sent to a different dimension, he would come back with Izanagi, which rewrites events that occure in reality. Base Obito was able to maintain Izanagi for 5 minutes, Final Form Madara should be able to maintain is much longer.

After using Izanagi, for the next at least 5 minutes, anything Dio does to Madara wont work. Madara blows up the continent, gg for Dio
 
UncleSpaceman said:
SomebodyStupid It's not a single thread, it's the accumulation of multiple vsbattles with Naruto characters, where irrc people agreed that Naruto hax do work on people without chakra.
Otherwise, the same thing could be said about HxH, Bleach, Dragon Ball, etc.
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No they didn't agree on that, i should know i was apart of them....
 
No they didn't agree on that, i should know i was apart of them....
If I recall correctly, the Naruto characters ended up winning the fights where this was discussed, so i think a majority consensus was reached.
 
UncleSpaceman said:
No they didn't agree on that, i should know i was apart of them....
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If I recall correctly, the Naruto characters ended up winning the fights where this was discussed, so i think a majority consensus was reached.

Umm, the threads happened months ago you just came here a couple of weeks ago, so how should you know? It was agreed on the Kaguya being the "God" of the verse only has genjutsu powerful enough to work on non charka people
 
I've been a long time lurker of vsbattles. I never had the time to actually debate before.

Madaras Infinite Tsukuyomi effected cats, hence, Madaras Infinite Tsukuyomi works on beings without chakra.
 
Pietro Maximoff said:
UncleSpaceman said:
No they didn't agree on that, i should know i was apart of them....
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If I recall correctly, the Naruto characters ended up winning the fights where this was discussed, so i think a majority consensus was reached.
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Umm, the threads happened months ago you just came here a couple of weeks ago, so how should you know? It was agreed on the Kaguya being the "God" of the verse only has genjutsu powerful enough to work on non charka people
That makes no sense. Kaguya being more powerful doesn't change the way a technique like this works. If Kaguya can use Infinite Tsukuyomi on people without chakra then it works on people without chakra.
 
Valar Melkor 2 said:
Pietro Maximoff said:
UncleSpaceman said:
No they didn't agree on that, i should know i was apart of them....
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If I recall correctly, the Naruto characters ended up winning the fights where this was discussed, so i think a majority consensus was reached.
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Umm, the threads happened months ago you just came here a couple of weeks ago, so how should you know? It was agreed on the Kaguya being the "God" of the verse only has genjutsu powerful enough to work on non charka people
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That makes no sense. Kaguya being more powerful doesn't change the way a technique like this works. If Kaguya can use Infinite Tsukuyomi on people without chakra then it works on people without chakra.
We already had a multiple threads on this, and i don't want to explain it again., so i suggest you find said threads or whatever and look over them
 
Pietro Maximoff said:
Valar Melkor 2 said:
Pietro Maximoff said:
UncleSpaceman said:
No they didn't agree on that, i should know i was apart of them....
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If I recall correctly, the Naruto characters ended up winning the fights where this was discussed, so i think a majority consensus was reached.
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Umm, the threads happened months ago you just came here a couple of weeks ago, so how should you know? It was agreed on the Kaguya being the "God" of the verse only has genjutsu powerful enough to work on non charka people
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That makes no sense. Kaguya being more powerful doesn't change the way a technique like this works. If Kaguya can use Infinite Tsukuyomi on people without chakra then it works on people without chakra.
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We already had a multiple threads on this, and i don't want to explain it again., so i suggest you find said threads or whatever and look over them
I'm not going to go searching for the threads, I'm just pointing out why it makes no sense. And by the way it was never stated in the series that Genjutsu needed the opponent to have chakra to work. Jiraiya said that it affected the opponent's chakra network but it was also stated that it worked on the five senses and it has worked on animals without chakra as well.
 
i would say it is a draw, well, if dio manages to go through the eyes into the skull of madara and smash his brain i think he would have a chance to win, or hmaybe he can absorb all of madara blood until he dies :p

but mostly i only see them as unable to kill each other :)

i would want to make a Dio vs Madara vs Aizen Thread but Blach chars are forbidden :(
 
Madara can die from this, he almost died when Guy used Yagai on him

Dio could literally destroys his organs and his bones with his intangibility
 
He fought Gai before he absorbed the shinju three and mentioned that he'd became immortal was later split in half by Sasuke and unfazed also moments later grew his lower body back so no.
 
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