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Link (Composite) vs Acacia

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Pachi vs Cal? Maybe.

Speed is...Okay seriously, do I have to explain this? There's a reason Cal forgets this.

Link: 2

Acacia: 8
 
How does Acacia win here? Eating Link.

Its that in character? It is his character

Can Acacia hit intangibles? Can eat souls. No prob.

Can Acacia perceive invisble people? Can smell and hear likely comparable to Toriko. In other words, yes. And the guy can see/hear/smell (?) souls.

Can Acacia resist those EE arrows? Yes (the resistance was approved in a CRT, not added yet because we need the EE ability in Midora's profile yet).

Link multiplies? Acacia sprouts clones.

Will Link resurrect after being eaten? Nope.

What about invulnerability? Eh, Acacia can eat Link whole, that counts as BFR.

Timestop? Useless here. Both can resist it.
 
AP? Acacia in base stomps High 4-Cs (Don Slime anyone?), here he is 3 transformations above that and has eaten several High 4-Cs to power up. Can Link overcome the likely AP advantage of Acacia?

Intelligence? Probably to Link due to several incarnations, Acacia has a couple of hundreds of years behind his back, tho.

Range? Oh boy, Planet sized hands raining down are a glorious sight. Also Pacman-like entities falling from the sky that eat everything in their path. Not kidding. At worst Acacia could squash the planet in which they are fighting (has tried it in character) and BFR link.

Note: High 4-Cs in toriko are in said tier due to being stronger than a fodder elephant who's head is star-sized (the body is even bigger).
 
Yeah, I don't see how Link wins here. Acacia is resistant to everything Link has and Link has little options against Acacia. Acacia wins.
 
The real cal howard said:
AoE transmutation gg.
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Which item is that.

And you know that if that's Link's only way of winning he still loses, right? And Im not arguing how Acacia could avoid that.
 
Not an item, but magic (Zelda II). Also, Quake Medallion.

Also...

Fi: Master, I calculate a 0% chance of survival unless you use Spell/Quake Medallion.

Link could also paradox him.
 
By the time Fi finishes talking Acacia has already eaten Link.

Acacia's first move will always be directly eating their opponent. And Link has so much versatility is impossible for him to start with the winning move unless its related to the master sword.
 
He's not closing 4Km before Fi finishes talking, & Link can quite easily dodge or go invisible to buy time. Also, why wouldn't he resurrect?
 
The real cal howard said:
He's not closing 4Km before Fi finishes talking, & Link can quite easily dodge or go invisible to buy time. Also, why wouldn't he resurrect?
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I... should post scans of people crossing toriko planet in an instant.

Acacia negs resurrection and Invisibility is easily bypassed with his sense of smell and hearing.
 
Neither of those will help (smell and hearing) with the Stone Mask. Link can make as much noise as he wants and still remain undetected.
 
The real cal howard said:
Neither of those will help (smell and hearing) with the Stone Mask. Link can make as much noise as he wants and still remain undetected.
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First, not every enemy falls to the Stone Mask.

Second, Acacia can see souls thanks to eating PAIR (Food Spirits = Souls).

If Link suddenly disappears from his radar (let's imagine the stone mask works), Acacia will nuke the planet.

When I say nuke, I mean: each fist is planet sized.

Toriko Gourmet Luck
 
Except for a few Gerudos (and there's a reason for that), they do. It makes Link as uninteresting as a stone.

Second, also doesn't help.

Third, Link will in character, time travel if Acacia tries to do that, which spells death for a Acacia.
 
Boi, NEO comes from another universe, unless time travel also has inter-dimensional thingy, he cannot kill him ovo
 
And this is ignoring the fact that Link cannot remain unnoticed and time travel at the same time. The moment he takes off the Stone Mask he will be eaten.

And of course we are in the scenario in which link survives Acacia's first assault.

And the fact that Acacia can perceive link's soul is enough for him to go eat him. Stone mask or not. A delicious soul wont pass unnoticed.
 
...NEO?

Also, he can time travel with the mask on.

The point of the matter is that this a Luke Skywalker situation. While Acacia has several ways of winning, he can't do so before Fi tells him how (the idea that Acacia can win before a sentence is done kinda undersells Link), then he gets transmuted. Or BFR'd.
 
The real cal howard said:
...NEO?

Also, he can time travel with the mask on.

The point of the matter is that this a Luke Skywalker situation. While Acacia has several ways of winning, he can't do so before Fi tells him how (the idea that Acacia can win before a sentence is done kinda undersells Link), then he gets transmuted. Or BFR'd.
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Neo? I guess its not capped. Its the other way around, actually, Acacia is the one pulling the win before link can use his stuff as it only takes one bite to win and its what he will do in character, whereas Link has versatility but only a little amount of his abilities will make him victorious.

And no, he cannot time travel with the mask, the abilities are from different games you cant smash them all together when Link cannot use all his items in Majora's Mask when wearing a mask. Unless what you sre calling time travel is the three days time travel in Majora, in which case, Link doesnt have the feats to time travel far enough to kill Acacia.

Note: Neo is the demon lurking in Acacia's body. This demon is million or so years old, has died many times and resurrected and comes from another universe.
 
Why does it take only one bite to win exactly? If it's existence erasure, Link resists that. And Link's versatility isn't a problem when he's informed on what he needs to do to win via Fi's info analysis. Plus, unlike Link, Acacia needs to hit. All of Link's win options, be it BFR, transmuatation (most effective), or time travel, he doesn't need to make contact.

Er...yes he can use the Ocarina of Time with the Stone Mask, or any mask for that matter (except for the FD mask), and he can time travel a few days in the past and beat Acacia while unaware.

Alternatively, link can Triforce him away with a wish.
 
Why does it take one bite?

Acacia can grow his jaw bigger than Link's size. He has anti-regen up to High level, anti resurrection and erase the soul and body of whatever he eats.

The only difference between the past Acacia and the Acacia Link is facing is AP (slightly weaker High 4-C). And in that scenario he'd be guarded by a group of High 4-Cs too. You'd have to go two hundred years or so into the past to find human Acacia (who is still High 4-C).

Fi wont inatantly analize Acacia and tell Link what to do. Acacia can close 4km instantly with Back channels. What BFR are you talking about because Acacia has interdimensional travel.

>Triforce him away.

Now that's ABSOLUTELY out of character for Link.
 
Link will definitely abuse that giant jaw, if Dodongos are anything to go by. Even if he doesn't use hax like throwing Magic Powder at him, a metric ton of bombs will hurt like heck.

It wouldn't stop him from being completely unaware of the fact that Link would be trying to kill him, and that Link can still screw every single one of them over with transmuatation.

We don't really know that, and if Fi won't, Ezlo will.

Link has used the TF to get rid of evil before. Speaking of evil, Link can seal or petrify him as well if he leaves the sword in him.
 
Acacia is not "evil". He just eats, his nature is eating everything. No malice.

And, spoilers, Acacia is actually a good guy.

I... mean.... throwing bombs... will do nothing. Only get link defenseless until he gets eaten. Acacia has eaten meteors, you know.
 
Both sealing and petrifying link has no control over. Not to mention, like you said, he needs to leave the sword in him, which I don't see that happening when he not only has really good regen, but can just pull the sword out.
 
Okay, well said. But still, if Acacia's best way of winning is by eating Link (as invulnerability renders pure AP useless, making Link win a war of attrition if it comes down to that), then Link has more options. Acacia can eat Link and bypass his stuff. While Link still has transmutation, sealing, OHK weapons, and time travel. Plus, Link can make himself only be hit 25% of the time, lowering Acacia's chances further.
 
OHK weapons --> Resistance to Death Manip and EE.

Sealing --> requires the Master sword aka cqc range, aka, good for Acacia. and its debatable if it works on someone who is not evil.

Time travel --> good luck getting through all the blue nitro, Acacia, his clones and whoever else is around. And the unaware thing is kinda pointless when he can be detected from far away.
 
OHK doesn't translate to death manipulation nor EE. And my all death manipulation go hand and hand.

Not necessarily, given that Link has more cqc options than Acacia.

Also, Magic Mushrooms if Acacia tries to eat Link, which either put him into a long sleep or turn him into a woodland creature. Either way, win for Link.

Basically, stays long range, Link wins. Gets close range, it's a toss up. Which would go to Link overall.
 
lel. Now link's OHK can bypass resistance to Death and EE? Cal, no.

Long range: Acacia blows up the planet (he wont try anything else tbh).

Cqc: Link gets eaten. My dude, the mushrooms get erased when eaten, they dont affect Acacia. Acacia doesnt have a stomach like you'd understand.
 
So say, if Akame (let's assume she was High 4-C for a moment) cut either of them, they'd resist it (as they both have resistance to EE and DM)? As Azzy said, there's many different types of death manipulation, and you can't attribute resistance there to resistance from all. Link's OHK is similar to Fiamma's Hand, iirc, as it does as much damage as it needs to in order to one-shot. Acacia doesn't resist that.

Long range: Link then has Majora flashbacks and time travels, which still results in Acacia's death.

Cqc: Link has far more cqc options and can make himself hard to approach. He can hold off being eaten really well. And unless Acacia's like Kirby (he honestly very well may be, I don't know anything about Acacia), his body is still a part of his body, and can be affected by magical food items that he can't resist.
 
This is going full circle. Let's agree to disagree.

And btw, acacia doesnt need to make a full gigantic punch to destroy the planet, he can do it in a much lesser scale. Its just that I like those stupidly big hands lol. He can make blasts from his mouth, you know.

And yes, Acacia is like kirby in that regard, more or less.

Which weapon oneshots again? Because: Acacia can eat it, or he can regen his way out.

Akame uses Poison doesnt she? Acacia resists that.
 
If we agree to disagree, then I lose, because more people agree with you ovo.

Fair enough, though Link can still temporarily BFR himself via Hero's Shade powers.

Again, fair enough.

The one hit kill obliterator.

Also, there's still Link's classic Silver Arrows to deal with, which is basically "You're dust now and can't regenerate. Screw you." OvO
 
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At this point it's gonna be good to relax and enjoy a healthy dose of spectating a heated debate.
 
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