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Zen'ō vs DIO

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2-c vs 2-a?

doesnt reality overide pretty much beats zeno? if not it would rest on who strikes first? i would need more information to vote on this one
 
Zeno isn't erasing right off the bat, but at the same time HA DIO jobs worse than flash, so he's not going for the kill right off the bat either. That said, over a small period of DIO likely making fun of Zeno or something, Zeno'll get angry enough to attack. DIO's smart enough to know that Zeno raising his hand and a shining light appearing means there's gonna be an attack, at that moment he'll stop time, punch Zeno to rewrite the effects of the erasure, then probably "muda" him into nothing.

DIO wins for that reason.
 
SirBrownBear said:
Where, in any showing of Zeno, does he just wipe everything instantly while unprovoked?
its zeno key move, he did it right away on frost, for seeing zamasu he just erased everything as well, i guess those 2 are the key ones, you dont even need to provoke him much for him to erase you (unless the 2 balls of energy count as destruction over erasure).
 
He erased Frost because he was going to cheat and attack Freiza after he got out, and he erased Zamasu because he saw he was merging with/wreaking havok on the universe, in both of those instances acts were being commited that went against his wishes/will. He didn't just immeditly appear, without any knowledge of the situations and say "lolnope, bye", he specifically targeted those that were provoking/upsetting him, If he really had such an itchy hair trigger the series would have been over long before now, especially when Goku went and hugged the future Zeno, who had no idea who Goku was.

But, again, DIO has enough sense to stop time once the light in Zeno's hand starts to shine and null it's effects. He doesn't have to know what it does, it's an attack in general, so he'll stop it. Not to mention the fact that there appears to be a sensation characters feel when they're about to be erased, so all DIO has to do is react in the second or so it takes for that full effect to actually take effect and make him vanish, because no, the process isn't instantanious.
 
Is it in character for Dio to either start with Time Stop or using Reality Overwrite? If it is, I think he wins, Zen'o has no defence against either. If it isn't in character, he gets erased.
 
Why did you count that Seventy? Paulo was asking a question and was saying it could go either way depending on if Dio does those things in character or not.
 
Never voted for Zeno I just stated that it mostly in character for him to instantly destroy everything. Dio wins because of Za Warudo and reality overrights Zeno.
 
By the way, I too agree with Paulo's sentiment. DOES Dio do it in-character? Because it's very in-character for Zen'o to blast Dio with an existent erase if he gets insulted.
 
Yes, it's in character for DIO to job and toss out banter or insults, but once Zeno get mad enough to try erasing, either DIO will react the moment Zeno's hand starts to shine, or once he feels the sensation of the attack (the same one everyone being erased reacts too within the series, even if it's just them screaming, they can act for that split second while being erased), either way he'll stop time and override the effects of the erasure, then counter with a barrage of muda's until Zeno's erased within the stopped time.

And before someone says it, no, Zeno's erasure isn't instant, not once, across all of his uses of it has it been instantanious, there's a start up with him raising his hand and about a second for the target to fully vanish once the hand shine appears, assuming it's a single person, if it's multiple things, or a whole universe, it takes slightly longer, regardless, DIO's smart enough and can react quick enough to stop time before he's erased to counter.
 
it is in character for Dio to start off with time stop and reality overwrite and iirc its also in character for Dio to just BFR Zen'o to another universe.And also can't Dio reality overwrite without his fist like he did with Jojo's multiverse?
 
Not really, if it were then most of EoH wouldn't have happened and DIO would have won. And he needs to make contact with his fists to override, yes, but other things he can do without, like BFR.
 
DIo - Low DIff.

In character Zeno wouldn't just try and instantly erase DIO, not to mention it's questionable if that would even work. Reality Overwrite is way too much for Zeno.
 
Khalryko said:
In character Zeno wouldn't just try and instantly erase DIO
It's quite literally his only way of attacking...... Pretty sure he'll use it once the fight starts
 
And since In character it's the first thing he uses, that proves my point.
 
Yeah , but DIO can just time stop and erase him from every universe and timeline at a mere touch . And time stop is quicker .
 
Gargoyle One said:
And since In character it's the first thing he uses, that proves my point.
No, because in character Zeno wouldn't just instantly try and erase DIO.......
 
And yet, Dio was said to be overconfident and does banter at the start.

As everyone else pointed out
 
Gargoyle One said:
And yet, Dio was said to be overconfident and does banter at the start.
As everyone else pointed out
Yes, he would. But I don't think he would push Zeno to the point where he tries to erase him...If he even can....
 
Khalryko said:
No, because in character Zeno wouldn't just instantly try and erase DIO.......
Umm...Have you watched Super? That is literally the first thing he does. All the time.
 
No, because in character Zeno wouldn't just instantly try and erase DIO.......

That's a baseless assumption at best.

Zamasu: Erased

Frost: Erased

Every single universe in the tournament: Erased

He's gone with Erasure right off the bat in literally every time he fought.

But I guess any and all of the times he fought are not how he fights...
 
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