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Kratos Hax and Slight AP Revision

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Kepekley23

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Decided to make this CRT, since i noticed that there were some hax and hax resistances missing from the profiles.

Zeus

Before everything, i'd like to point out that Zeus has a great implicit feat on Ascension. He was capable of shattering the chains that held Aegaeon the Hecatonchires priso er. How strong is Aegaeon?

He is stated two times by different WoGs (the lead writer of GoW II and the director of Ascension) to be physically stronger than the Titans:

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This isn't against the regulations, since not only it doesn't contradict anything, but it also makes sense since Aegaeon in mythology was portrayed as one of the strongest allies of the gods, and the director plainly states that they drew from mythology when creating him.

Furthermore, notice how the second WoG expands on the statement by saying that Aegaeon had much better upper body strength, being equal to Atlas and a little above Cronos, and i don't need to remind you guys that Atlas casually held up the world on his shoulders.

Now, i'm sure people will try to say the WoGs are wrong because Aegaeon was rather easily stomped by The Furies, who lost to a street-level version of Kratos. However, this is false, because the Furies don't need to scale to Aegaeon physically. Notice that when the Furies attacked Aegaeon, they seemed to do so by mentally assaulting him, as proven by the black fog surrounding him, and this is true since the Furies are very heavily dependent on mindhax. So they don't need to be eligible to any physical scaling, they just brought him down with Mind Manipulation.

In other words, Zeus has a very good feat to support his current rating. Should be included in the profiles.

Now, let's get into the haxes.

Resistance to Death Manipulation

This was accepted the last time i brought it up, but for some reason the profile wasn't updated to reflect that.

Kratos was capable of resisting the effects the River Styx,which was stated to slay anyone who drank from it. It especifically mentions Kratos's immunity to its effects, too. Should be noted that, while not slaying Kratos, the river did affect him by weakening him a little.

Thankfully, though, Kratos acquires full-blown immunity after getting the Helmet of Hades.

Resistance to Mind Manipulation

Kratos has two different mind manipulation resistance feats throughout the series.

The first one happens in Chains of Olympus, in the Persephone bossfight, wherePersephone tries to mindhax Kratos into believing he was no longer in the world of gods , but on another world, away from the chaos of men. The GoW: Chains of Olympus manual especifically addresses this.

The second one happens in God of War: Ascension, where Kratos resists Tisiphone's mind-hax, and Tisiphone is especifically stated, both in the notes Kratos comes across and by WoG, to be a "mind-f*" for Kratos. However, Kratos drives on. The same Mind Manipulation was enough to drain the sanity of hundreds of prisoners and Aegaeon as seen above.

Life-Force Absorption.

Kratos is capable of absorbing the life-force of his enemies with the Blades of Chaos, and later the Blades of Athena and Exile, increasing his own strength. Source

Charon's Wrath, a magic in Chains of Olympus, also shows the ability to consume an enemy's life-force, presumably being even better than the Blades.

That's two life force absorption feats, and this also means Kratos can ignore durability.

Intangibility-Negation

Kratos's blades, the Blades of Chaos, are capable of killing intangible enemies, the Wraiths, who can phase through walls and arrows. but not the Blades. Here is another passage proving that the Wraiths have intangibility.

Kratos's Poseidon's Rage magic also shows this ability, vaporizing everyone around him including the Wraiths , so that's two intangibility negation feats. This scales to Kratos's magic.

Resistance to Fear Manipulation

After obtaining the Power of Hope, Kratos gains resistance to Fear Zeus, who was empowered with the concept of fear from Pandora's Box according to Athena. He goes so far as to make himself immune to Zeus's attacks.

Resurrection & Immortality

At the end of God of War III, Kratos dies at the hands of Fear Zeus , but after a long trip and the Power of Hope, Kratos actuallywills himself back to life and casually defeats Zeus.

The immortality comes from the fact that, even after sinking the Blade of Olympus into himself, Kratos survives and apparently regenerates a large hole in his stomach. The director of the new God of War 4 game, Cory Barlog, even says this about Kratos . I don't know if this counts as Type 3 immortality, but i'm pretty sureit's some kind of immortality.

Also, this would count as an upgrade for Kratos's regen. It's currently Low-Mid, but regenerating from this would certainly count as a fatal wound, and thus Mid-Low.

Resistance to Petrification

Not sure if it's in the profile already, since i just skimmed through and made note of a few things, but Kratosis able to counter energy-based petrification with the Golden Fleece.

Anger Empowerment

Kratos is able to draw powers from anger. He granted himself infinite magic after getting angry, so it should also be on his profile.

Now, about the slight AP upgrades, i'm proposing a City-level upgrade for Ascension and GoW 1 Kratos. Here are the reasons:

- There is a calc putting him at Large Town level

- Ascension Kratos has a magic that is stated to have the power of a typhoon sealed withi , and typhons are normally around this level. However, since the typhoon is extremely condensed over a 5-meter range or so, it would be much harder hitting than normal, but still City-level.

- The Furies were capable of causing an earthquake across a chain of islands indirectly . While the island Alecto was on was tiny, the Delos region is a part of a considerably larger archipelago named Cyclades, so this feat should be around this range. Also, a smaller upgrade, but Alecto managed to pull down the Lantern of Delos, which should be pretty safely in the millions of tons range, so it's a Class M+ feat.

- The Furies were capable of creating a dimension with its own sea and multiple tornados & whirpools . Very easily a City-level feat, and the dimension should be real since it has real lightning bolts, boats and the tornados actually affect the enviroment, not to mention the Furies create illusions inside the dimension, and they are very distinct.

That's it, i guess. Just my two cents.

EDIT: Only the hax ones need to be added
 
A peice of advice:

Usually, it's a lot easier to get support for a thread if you don't write upgrade in the top, just revision.

For example, this would be easier if you wrote Kratos Hax and slight AP revision.
 
Is that a superstition (albeit a possibly true one) or something?

Probably a piece of advice.

Anyway, what is your opinion here?
 
From my experiance, when you say upgrade it immediately alienates someone, and most revisions with upgrade in them (Or equivalent) fail.

As for my thoughts, this seems to make sense, though I am not an expert.
 
Thanks.

A friend of mine calculated Hermes's feat of dodging the Head of Helios, and got 1/3 of the speed of light. This is excellent, since it scales to the top-tiers (At full power, Zeus threw a bolt that flabbergasted Hermes, and according to WoG the reason why Kratos could keep up with Zeus was because he had Hermes's boots, so this definitely scales to Zeus. Should also scale to Hercules, since he can replicate the feat )

The calc.

By the way, here is what he is calculating.
 
So Relatvistic Zeus, Hermes, Herc and Kratos? Damn thats cool here's hoping the Sub Rel upgrades Matt and you proposed go through.
 
Andika CL atmadja said:
still waiting exact size of GoW world.....
Well if one goes off some artwork depicting the GOW Earth then it should be the size of the real one going off of Mt Olympus. Though there is a calc that exists claiming Star sized GOW Earth.
 
Hellbeast1 said:
Andika CL atmadja said:
still waiting exact size of GoW world.....
Well if one goes off some artwork depicting the GOW Earth then it should be the size of the real one going off of Mt Olympus. Though there is a calc that exists claiming Star sized GOW Earth.
You mean easter egg on GoW ascension ?
 
Nah. The God of War Earth isn't star-sized. It's probably bigger than our own, but not star-sized.
 
As i said before, it's Mach 14, but using this to calc the distance between the Island of Creation and Rhodes is calc-stacking.
 
if GOW earth is same like ours, mount of olympus would be visible from the space/sky. but in fact we didn't see mount in the artwork. Unless the atmosphere is bigger than ours which unlikely.
 
i know this from the guy who made GoW respect thread since 2014, but is he really using that commerial as a legit source ?
 
just asking : how you can handle with such contradict info and unclear visual ? i know analyze this verse is pretty tiresome, Since there are many different interpretation.
 
I manage. Eventually i find new evidence and new stuff to add to my PoV.

Also, i noticed that some people believe the Underworld is part of the Earth's layers. This isn't true, and i have a HUGE write-up on wordpard disproving this. I'll post it later, alongside a GoW Cosmology blog.
 
Also, didn't Kratos punch chains hard enough for them to imprison Atlas with the Gauntlet of Zeus? That would likely make the gauntlet High 6-A, since Atlas could hold the world with a single hand if he had to.
 
Yeah definitely plus there's the fact that it sealed away the Titans (who should be comparable to the Olympians due to Perses V Helios)
 
Actually, the Titans would've won the war had the Sisters not changed the fate of the Olympians.
 
Wait really? I actually did not know that the Sisters warped Fate so the Olympians won. Thoguh the Gauntlet should still be High 6-A for the reasons you suggested.
 
Also, according to Atropos on page 32 of the God of War II novel, Atlantis is not an island, but a continent, which means that Thera's feat of sinking it in God of War: Ghost of Sparta is possibly a Small Continent level, likely higher feat, so even demonstrably low-level\low-tier Titans are probably 6-A.
 
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