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Momoshiki Otsutsuki vs Goku

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I love Goku but the one that fought Raditz was around Island Level, why not the end of Sayain Saga?
 
well, i guess it is possible but the diffrence between Piccolo JR Saga and Raditz battle doesnt look that high.... Eh, screw consistency. Goku wins thouhgh is he is moon level+, for larger move set and experience mostly
 
SomebodyStupid said:
well, i guess it is possible but the diffrence between Piccolo JR Saga and Raditz battle doesnt look that high.... Eh, screw consistency. Goku wins thouhgh is he is moon level+, for larger move set and experience mostly
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Piccolo blew up the Moon with a ki blast before Raditz came to earth and goku was stronger than Piccolo so yea Moon level+
 
Piccolo blew up the Moon after Raditz was dead but yeah it was right after the fight so basically it still means both he and Goku at the time are Moon+ which is equal to Momoshiki at full power.
 
Valar Melkor 2 said:
Piccolo blew up the Moon after Raditz was dead but yeah it was right after the fight so basically it still means both he and Goku at the time are Moon+ which is equal to Momoshiki at full power.
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Yea my mistake
 
I think Momoshiki wins with this "With the Rinnegan in his palms he can absorb any technique with the right and utilize & enhance said technique with his left." countering Goku with a bigger kamehameha, since Goku didnt had access to instant power boosts [kaioken or ssj] and also no teletransportation hax Momoshiki got the upper hand here.
 
How about in close combat won't Goku have the upperhand if he realize his ki is being absorb he would just fight him head on. But i still can't decide who the winner is.
 
If i remember correctly from the battle with cell vs gohan, both hands are needed to release a kamehameha at full power, will this overide it? if not the kamehameha may be enhanced but only at 50% including the fact that he'll need to use energy to maintain it long enough to surpass goku's and goku usually doesnt just blitz so Momoshiki might be more tired by then.
 
SomebodyStupid said:
If i remember correctly from the battle with cell vs gohan, both hands are needed to release a kamehameha at full power, will this overide it? if not the kamehameha may be enhanced but only at 50% including the fact that he'll need to use energy to maintain it long enough to surpass goku's and goku usually doesnt just blitz so Momoshiki might be more tired by then.
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I dont think Gohan 1 hand kamehameha was not at full power, super perfect cell was on par with him, the only reason Cell lost was cause he lost attention for a fraction of second which was enough for Gohan to release everything and finish him
 
Hmmm, Virturino's got a point., however like I said, can Momoshiki last long enough to do it? Remember Goku has taken hits hard before, his strategy usually doesn't involve blitzing, and he is an expert figter on a whole new level.
 
SomebodyStupid said:
Hmmm, Virturino's got a point., however like I said, can Momoshiki last long enough to do it? Remember Goku has taken hits hard before, his strategy usually doesn't involve blitzing, and he is an expert figter on a whole new level.
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ViRturino

top kek~~

Ill add that to my misspells kekollection

BTW

i think Momoshiki can last long enough yes, his durability is enough to take some [At least Continent level+ | Multi-Continent level+ | Moon level+]

Their speed stats is around the same, both have enough stamina to endure a long fight, in the start Goku has a bit upper hand on striking/energy strikes, but as the battle develops Momoshiki will change the course with his mimic abilties [

]

Also, at that point Momoshiki has more experience than goku [Age: At least 1,000 years old]


imo Momoshiki is still below Raditz, but above Goku and Piccolo from the start of saiyan saga.

If i has to give a "power level" for Momoshiki would be around 500

Just to remember:

Raditz:1200

Piccolo[w/o weights]:322

Goku[w/o weights]:334

Kid Gohan[enraged]:710
 
I feel like Goku could just barely pull it off he has loads of combat experience and without the kaioken this willl be an extremely high-dif win
 
SomebodyStupid said:
Sorry Vituroso, I can't help but spell names wrong.
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"Power levels are bs."-TFS Vegeta. Anyways, does the Lava Golem form have the same intellgence as the other forms? Also, btw Goku has been show to take on big monsters with similar power levels (Ex: Goku vs Giant Piccolo) and it'll be even worse if the intellgence does decrease. (BTW: I'm asking because its a cliche in stories that a smart villian has monsterous forms with lowered intellgence) and the lava golem is one of the biggest tools against Goku.
 
SomebodyStupee? Who is this Stupee person? How dare he offend you Futureino!
 
Momoshiki should be able to blitz I've seen about no speeds near MHS+ in that period of Dbz the only thing is faster than lightning kid Goku.
 
CHILLVIBEZZ said:
Momoshiki should be able to blitz I've seen about no speeds near MHS+ in that period of Dbz the only thing is faster than lightning kid Goku.
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Snake way length : 1.000.000 Km

Goku took 6 months to run through Snake way

PRE KING KAI

Explanation:

We will assume Goku did not eat , sleep or had fatigue since he was dead.

1.000.000 Km = 6 months or

182,5 days[365days/2] or

4.380 hours[182,5days*24hours]

So 1.000.000/4.380 = Goku speed KPH

Result~~

Goku travel speed before King kai´s training :

~~ 228.3 KPH ~~ [approximate, full number: 228.3105022831050228]

Goku at that point has half the speed of a McLaren F1


Yea, if momoshiki is really Massively hypersonic thats a incredible blitz, i wonder how consistent is Goku speed on snake way tho, since raditz its only a bit above him and is already massively hypersonic + , i may be missing something here
 
And 228.3 KPH isn't even Mach 1 by running it through the converter into Mach.That is really slow also I've already asked and no one could provide any speed feats giving raditz the rating of MHS+ actually.So meh
 
CHILLVIBEZZ said:
And 228.3 KPH isn't even Mach 1 by running it through the converter into Mach.That is really slow also I've already asked and no one could provide any speed feats giving raditz the rating of MHS+ actually.So meh
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yea, i know, thats why i feel the inconsistency
 
Goku is stronger than he is. Momo or whatever the heck his name is, is roughly Moon Level. You guys should be glad that the blasts speed was also an outlier. Not even close.
 
Davy0 said:
Goku is stronger than he is. Momo or whatever the heck his name is, is roughly Moon Level. You guys should be glad that the blasts speed was also an outlier. Not even close.
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True and Raditz is MHS+ because Kid Goku was trained to be faster than lightning. Now he is adult You guys expect him to be slower lol.
 
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