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Zongazonga vs The Beast (High 6-A)

Okay so let's go over everything

"Mind Manipulation"-Moot as the Beast doesn't have a mind.

"Sleep Manipulation"-Could Work.

"Poison Manipulation"-Literally the whole point of inFAMOUS is being insanely resistant to poison's if not downright immune, so that's not helping.

"Possession"-Could work if it comes in contact with Beasts head which wol be a pain.

"Fear Manipulation"-Maybe...?

"Biological Manipulation"-Legit the most useless thing against Conduits.

So the Beast, being a naturally bloodlusted monster can RFB the dude and call it a day (Leading Move) or turn into a Black Hole and Suck him into it before breaking him down atomically, mix in some teleportation and Beast should take this with incredibly high difficulty.
 
Gargoyle One said:
Okay so let's go over everything
"Mind Manipulation"-Moot as the Beast doesn't have a mind.

"Sleep Manipulation"-Could Work.

"Poison Manipulation"-Literally the whole point of inFAMOUS is being insanely resistant to poison's if not downright immune, so that's not helping.

"Possession"-Could work if it comes in contact with Beasts head which wol be a pain.

"Fear Manipulation"-Maybe...?

"Biological Manipulation"-Legit the most useless thing against Conduits.

So the Beast, being a naturally bloodlusted monster can RFB the dude and call it a day (Leading Move) or turn into a Black Hole and Suck him into it before breaking him down atomically, mix in some teleportation and Beast should take this with incredibly high difficulty.
I don't think RFB works on a Zombie Dinosaur transformed from a magic skull, but I'll restrict it if necessary
 
True.

In this case, Black Hole spamming and far better range and teleport should give him the win.
 
This version of The Beast busted the Moon while still on Earth, so pretty damn good.

No clue.
 
Does he fight from that range in character? If he did, he wouldn't have chased Kessler.

A rough estimate could work.
 
Because Kessler was the only Conduit who had the potential to defeat him, so he had to eliminate the threat to him but by then he was already strong enough.
 
You can downplay and call it "fair." As the OP you should never attempt to purposely downplay the characters you pit against each other.
 
Knightofannihilation666 said:
You can downplay and call it "fair." As the OP you should never attempt to purposely downplay the characters you pit against each other.
That's what I'm doing my best not to do
 
Ah well just try to word things better. Anyway Gar brought up very valid points so I'll have to vote for the Beast for his reasoning.
 
Also it is OK to restrict an ability if it makes it a stomp. That said you can't restrict every ability that gives the opponent a win condition.
 
Assaltwaffle said:
Also it is OK to restrict an ability if it makes it a stomp. That said you can't restrict every ability that gives the opponent a win condition.
Black Holes aren't restricted yet and Gar agreed that the RFB, The Beasts main stomp power, wouldn't work.
 
Yobobojojo said:
I also want to bring up some arguments for ZZ but that seems kind of biased.


Nah you can still give arguments if you're the OP. Just try not to take it too far. Just shine some knowledge.
 
Yeah, if it were any other thread I'd be fine, but it's a Fossil Fighters thread, so..

Anyway, the beast doesn't spam range in character. We know this because of the fact that he is specifically stated to chase Kessler rather than just using his massive range.

The Beast also has a mind, since he did chase Kessler specifically since he views him as a threat.

Take that as you will.
 
Yobobojojo said:
The Beast also has a mind, since he did chase Kessler specifically since he views him as a threat.
Implying you need a mind to think in fictio.

Also, he was SEARCHING for Kessler, and he never found him before he time travelled.

Every single fight in InFAMOUS with him is fought at range and never getting close quarters or anything, only exception is the last 30 seconds of the first fight where he walked up and drained Cole.
 
Gargoyle One said:
Yobobojojo said:
The Beast also has a mind, since he did chase Kessler specifically since he views him as a threat.
Implying you need a mind to think in fictio.
Also, he was SEARCHING for Kessler, and he never found him before he time travelled.

Every single fight in InFAMOUS with him is fought at range and never getting close quarters or anything, only exception is the last 30 seconds of the first fight where he walked up and drained Cole.
I meant his 238000 mile range.

I mean, he has a mind, even with out a brain.

If he didn't find him, how did he kill his family?
 
Show me he has a mind when literally Everything shows his "head" being made of Magma.

"How did he kill his family?"

By nonchalantly doing an RFB? I ask you to rewatch the scene with Kessler again and notice how ridiculously far away he is from Kessler and his family, that kinda proves my point.
 
Gargoyle One said:
Show me he has a mind when literally Everything shows his "head" being made of Magma.
"How did he kill his family?"

By nonchalantly doing an RFB? I ask you to rewatch the scene with Kessler again and notice how ridiculously far away he is from Kessler and his family, that kinda proves my point.
Brain=/=mind

RFB is still only about city range nowhere nearest the maximum range of 23800 miles from blowing up the moon.
 
That's STILL good range tho. And even then, you can't prove to me that he doesn't have the range to bust the moon unless you want to tell me he teleported up there, which still proves my point.

Did you see how far away he was from Kesslers family? He has some pretty damn good range.
 
Gargoyle One said:
That's STILL good range tho. And even then, you can't prove to me that he doesn't have the range to bust the moon unless you want to tell me he teleported up there, which still proves my point.
Did you see how far away he was from Kesslers family? He has some pretty damn good range.
I'm just saying he doesn't snipe from 238000 miles away in character
 
I didn't say he snipes AT that range, I said he uses his range in character and has a massive advantage there.
 
Gargoyle One said:
I didn't say he snipes AT that range, I said he uses his range in character and has a massive advantage there.
He doesn't snipe from 238000 miles away though.

City level isn't quite enough range when most of ZZ's hax are done by him looking at him
 
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