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Zatch Bell verse page???

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Yay! So, Kep, did you look through the Respect Threads? Or are you going to find some other material?
 
It is a really interesting series, actually! I can see Gash having a load of keys though due to the amount of times he gets stronger.
 
Also, I'd like you to reread the Clear Note fights to go over the nature of Radisu element spells. It's, like, a weird combination of Atomization, weakening, and standard energy blasts, and I don't know what that would get called for powers.
 
Cool, though absorption is kinda... Not exactly accurate, as he doesn't get anything from hitting them with it. Superifo and Ba Superifo should be power null...?
 
I would actually like to help in this, however I'm still reading the series. When I get the time to finish it I'll be sure to help out. Though a word of a advice, perhaps start with the beginning stuff of Gash Bell and not stuff that's on the border of EoS territory.
 
Ytmcztmc said:
Though a word of a advice, perhaps start with the beginning stuff of Gash Bell and not stuff that's on the border of EoS territory.
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I agree here, actually, as, well... everyone's going to scale to their past self unless stated to be weaker (which I cannot recall occuring anyway), so it's a good baseline to see what we can use... Plus, it means Ytmc can have a time to catch up, yet still contribute to the discussions. (And me too, since I'm not EoS just yet).
 
That's fine. I know every Demon/Mamodo (I like the name Mamodo, even if it's a cringy dub thing) is at least superhuman and street level in stats with the possible omission of Kanchome, considering he was supposed to be fodder in comparison. Then again, I don't think he's for sure that Kanchome is that much weaker than all of them, especially when most of the stuff they say about my boi is half downplay and bullying. He's a coward, sure, but I don't think its obviously impossible for him to be equal to or weaker than a normal human. Though, if there was a "likely weaker", I would definitely give it to him. I dunno. Also, what Keys are we seperating them into.

//Screams internally about Jed and Wonrei battles against other Martial Arts characters//
 
Hmm, I can see what you mean with Kanchome there... He could maybe be comparable though.

As for keys, well... with Gash, for instance, he's been stated to have gotten stronger multiple times, so... that helps sort out scaling a little better, I guess, but means there should be a key for each level of his strength, unless there is essentially no notable difference. Even then, with him gaining new skills or finding new ways to use them, his hax will also be nicely separated by these keys.

Plus, spells than improve strength, speed, etc, (such as Rauzaruku, or like the spells with Umagon and Ted's "gears") may deserve their own key too if we see there being a notable difference.
 
Most likely the Arcs, since they're the indication of where they're at in terms of strength. From what I've seen there's The Beginning Arc, The Millenium Demons Arc, The Faudo Arc, and the Clearnote Arc. What I would suggest is judging the powers in terms of that, at which they are at the end of each arc. The point where I'm at is on Volume 19, which is where they learn a little bit more about the "tower"(rereading the arc for the sake of remembering). At the rate I'm going I'll be done with the arc in no time. But best way to judge the gaps is the Arcs
 
Well, they usually just outright state that Gash has gotten stronger. And that means that Gash before that point can't scale to anyone after this point, for example. Due to him usually learning something new during the gaps between increases, there should hopefully be enough use for each key, even if they are equal in AP, speed, etc.
 
I like Ytmez's idea better, only because I have a vague feeling that Zatch Bell and Kiyo frequently mention how they hit the lab often to work on techniques. Stopping all scaling after a statement is kinda messy depending on how frequent they are.
 
If I recall, they aren't too freuqent, so not too messy. But, if Ytmc's way works better, then sure. I was just thinking for the sake of scaling actually working well and not having some relatively okay people starting to scale to top feats of the overall arc, for example.

EDIT: Just to avoid confusion, that example would be if he were to get strong mid-arc, or struggle against someone who should naturally pale in comparison to the final fight, and was only an example.

EDIT 2: I think with Rauzaruku, if we give it a new key every time it's used by a stronger Gash, the profile's going to get messy... So I think a "higher with Rauzaruku" (or specify the tier if there is evidence he's at that tier and it's a tier jump compared to normal) would work better for each key that he possesses it in.
 
Definitely. Augmentation Spells never really give a specified and quantifiable boosts, right? Also, for the frequency, maybe it was the anime or something else that makes me think of Kiyo constantly saying that, but idk. Um, I do think that Wonrei needs specifications, since he is always using Augmentation spells in his Bauren stuff.
 
Well seeing how his power is essentially concentrating his chi for devastating blows we could say that he is stronger with spells. As for the others, Ted and Umagon directly get stronger with forms/states of spell so that part can become a little tricky.
 
Not sure if you guys are still planning on doing this or not, but I just finished rereading the manga and have a small collection of feats on my wall. I'm really just missing a speed feat or two before I have enough to actually create the verse.
 
It's from chapter 65, where Danny dodges some bullets. I did a calc of it yesterday, though I haven't put it into a blog yet. My low end was subsonic+ and my high end was transonic.
 
And, lastly, quite a few demons would have durability higher than their AP. Such as Tio and Kyanchome.

The humans would scale slightly lower durability wise as well. Kiyo took five to six spells against Leo and died subsequently after. But the humans are consistently able to take two and three hits. Minus maybe Megumi.
 
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