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Zabuza Momochi vs Alex Mercer.

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The Camera pans down to see a void of darkness with Zabuza laying in a pool of his own blood. He then awakes with a start and looks around. "Where the hell am I? I should be dead." As he finishes his sentence a glowing blood red silhouette appears before him and tells him "You are in a sort of purgatory at the moment. I have appeared before you to give you an offer." Zabuza gets suspicious of this and hesitantly asks "...What kind of offer?" "It's more like a Contract if anything. I'm too busy to go put this one down, but you have just the talents I'm looking for to do this. If you put him down, I will resurrect you and Haku as extra watchers for someone special to me. Do we have a deal?" Zabuza then agrees after asking "Who is this person and what can they do?" "You will have your knowledge once you find him. Now get going." Zabuza then asks "Who are you anyway?" The silhouette inwardly smirks and replies "Malum, The Divine Seeker of Vengeance." And like that Zabuza appears in Central Park near one of the ponds/lakes and near Mercer without Mercer having noticed him yet which gives Zabuza enough time to set up his Hidden Mist Jutsu, which has Mercer on Guard.

Normal Zabuza vs P2 Mercer.

Zabuza has Prior Knowledge and Mercer has Prior Knowledge on Zabuza's Power, but not his clones or mist.

Speed Equal.

Zabuza:1

Mercer:

Incon:
 
I'm gonna go with Zabuza here. Mercer has the hax advantage, and is quite versatile, but Zabuza has a ridiculous AP advantage that is High enough to vaporize Mercer. So his Regenerationn won't be a problem.

He'll rely on his stealth and mist to get in close proximity and deliver hell with his blade. He'll use water clones for scouting and distractions, and with the sheer AP gap they'll be really difficult to deal with. He also has his water prison Jutsu as an incap option, so overall I think Zabuza's chances are pretty good especially with prior knowledge.
 
Melee won't end well, but if it's just water clones he'll figure that out fast, as long as they didn't try slashing him with his sword because if so, goodbye Kubokiribocho.
 
Yeah I think Zabuza will let a few clones go in first to figure out the best strategy to deal with Mercer.
 
How the heck can Mercer handle Low-Godly Regenerationn? He can't deal with levels of Regenerationn that outdoes his own infection...

Stomp.
 
If Zabuza relies on using clones, I miiiight side with him here. Wish someone more knowledgeable would answer if that's the case or not...

BL Virus should definitely work here and Mercer afaik leads with it here which is defiitely troublesome.

Not officially casting my vote yet. Just saying.
 
He always sent in his clones first to test people. He did it to Kakashi even when he knew more about him then he does about Mercer currently.
 
Yeah he led with clones against Kakashi, even though he knew damn near everything about him given how famous he is. So I don't see why he wouldn't employ a similar strategy against Mercer.
 
Oh, wait. Alex is outranging here pretty badly, and the gas covers 200 meters of radius immediately. Granted, he will know about his gasing tendency due to prior knowledge. He could try to one-shot him before he does that with Shunshin, but I don't know if even with that he can one-shot him before he gases.
 
Mercer doesn't even know that a person caused the mist, just that the Mist Suddenly appearing like that is suspicious as ****, so he's on guard.
 
Shrugs

Didn't stop him from gasing as much as he did in P2.

It's looking pretty close I guess. I'll probably wait for more input.
 
I guess, but I'm pretty sure he did that because he knew what was going on, not what's happening here.
 
@XSOULOFCINDERX

Why the heck are most of your Alex Mercer matches involving his opponent having prior knowledge whilst leaving Mercer himself with little to no prior knowledge? You're basically giving Mercer a disadvantage each time to even make a feasible match. XD

Also, I don't know what the AP gap to vapourise is, but I suggest getting rid of the prior knowledge gap or give Mercer the same level of prior knowledge factor if you want a match with such an AP difference to be more feasible, just to be safe.
 
The reason why I do it is so they don't **** around and get raped by Mercer's Hax in 2 seconds, but fine.
 
If you think Zabuza needing prior knowledge on the gasses would make things more fairer, then sure. Just make sure to give Mercer prior knowledge of Zabuza's AP advantage over him as well, to make things a bit more fairer.
 
Schnee One said:
Mercer can't really fight higher tiered characters anymore since his regen got downgraded
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I mean, he can't fight ones that has too absurd of an AP advantage like before, but were there any threads to establish the topic of estimated Vapourisation AP gap?
 
I mean until there is a thread made establishing it its around a 3 million times AP gap

Which almost all Tier 7s reach
 
What is the exact AP for Zabuza again?

The only Town Level calc I've found for Zabuza is via scaling to Gaara's 7-C feat.
 
There are no 7-C calcs anymore to scale Zabuza. He will be High 7-C or something like
 
Schnee One said:
I mean until there is a thread made establishing it its around a 3 million times AP gap
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If we're using that AP gap, then Zabuza wouldn't be able to bypass Mercer's Regenerationn based on his current profile. From what I can estimate, a character would need to be a high-end High 7-C to vapourise a baseline 8-C character via AP.
 
Schnee One said:
Bear in mind that's with only one attack, repeated AoE attacks fit the bill too.
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Wouldn't that just be repeats of the same AP?

Calc stacking isn't accepted if I recall correctly...
 
That is like saying that repeated 7C attacks will not harm a High 7C character

Repeated AoE nuking does not translate to calculations but that's not relevant in matches
 
...I thought that was the default assumption? That a fictional character with notable higher AP and durability than their opponent can't be physically harmed by the said opponent, regardless of the amount of physical attacks?

Last I've checked, AP is calculated based on the highest value a character has shown after all... And that calculation is quite relevant concerning versus matches involving AP...
 
Of course not. Being in a seperate tier isn't some invinvible barrier that any character in a lower tier cannot harm through sheer AP. The gap between 30 Tons and baseline High 7C is less then a 4X gap, and Zabuza is above it. If you're saying repeated attacks cannot harm someone in the next tier no matter how small it is, that is wrong

I kinda fail to see how this is relevant, calculations measure singular attacks, not multiple, this does not mean that multiple attacks don't bring more harm.

To break it down in the simplest possible way I can make it, taking 10 attacks hurts more then just taking one.
 
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