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The Martian physiology should let him tank the dura neg, the possession idk.
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"Your little alien toy is nothing against me, kid." | Ben 10 vs Lex Luthor
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what level is the regeneration negation? because omnitrix has high regen
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Ben has higher AP with Feedback (if Lex Luttors AP is Low 2-C)
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Feedback is only 1-B or whatever if he absorbs the Annihilargh or something at the same level, otherwise, he's 5-A.
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still should be countable, also Omnitrix has 2A AP via self destruct and Clockwork has Low 1-C time hax
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Not really, since is something that Ben can't use normally. And would made this match useless.
Ben needs to overcharge the watch for days to do that, and he'd die too.
Only in range.
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What is holding Feedback from absorbing Lex's Low 2-C AP?
Reasonable but that doesn't mean Omntirix's AP is less than Lutor's
No, he was able to reverse the effect of Chronosapien time bomb AP, also they are same species i don't think the other one would lack the same ability there is no reason about it
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adding a few more for ben
Heatblast can burn him to dust
Gutrot can immobilize him with his gas (since he can make any gas he wants)
Echo Echo via Sound Manip
Waterhazard via moisture/water absorbtion
Brainstorm via Mind Manipulation/Memory
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Luthor can regen.
Martian physiology makes him inmune to any kind of gas or toxin.
Maybe he can stunn him, but not more than that.
Idk how'd that work.
Dude, he's a Martian, Ben tries that and his mind blows up.
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Shouldn’t Ben have some ways around age manipulation? He has multiple inorganic beings and immortals. Clockwork seems like an easy counter.
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Nothing.
He can amp himself at Luthor's level via absorbing his energy or a energy beam. But at base form, Feedback is just 5-A.
It doesn't count, it's useless
Being the same species as the bomb's nave doesn't mean they scale. I mean, it's not like we are walking nuclear bombs.
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We've seen that age manipulation does affect Ben, even with the OVTrix.
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Has that ever happened while he’s an alien that can bypass aging though? Usually it’s when he’s human or at least not something inorganic iirc.
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No, he's always caught by surprise.
But if he's affected when in an organic form, or human form, he's ******.
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Yeah, but if the failsafe kicks in or Ben avoids the Still Force (Assuming it’s not AOE since Lex’s range is Unknown) and sees its effect, he could go for Clockwork.
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GeralSol16 said:
Response: I don't actually think his mind would explode, since he's an alien with an IQ of 10^30, or a nonillion, which is an insane amount. I'd say he'd have a chance to actually manipulate memory/defend himself against Lex's mind manipulation or something. The only abilities/resistances that would be problematic for Ben would be:
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Answer 2: If Ben can resist and neutralize Lex's abilities, there is an 89% chance that Ben will win.
Response: I don't actually think his mind would explode, since he's an alien with an IQ of 10^30, or a nonillion, which is an insane amount. I'd say he'd have a chance to actually manipulate memory/defend himself against Lex's mind manipulation or something. The only abilities/resistances that would be problematic for Ben would be:
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Answer 2: If Ben can resist and neutralize Lex's abilities, there is an 89% chance that Ben will win.
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That's only his IQ.
Brainstorm doesn't have nothing of real telephatic powers. Or well, not at the level of a Martian.
He can counter some, but Lex still has some wincons.
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Who do you think would win
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If Ben selects / gets the right alien, he can win.
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Can someone count Ben's and Lex's votes?
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2 votes for Ben right now not sure about Lutor
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Imma vote for the same reason
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Who are Lex Luthor experts in this thread ? what are they saying regarding his wincon ?
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Generalsol16 has knowledge about both i guess:
Lex Luthor's wincons / advantages:
Way superior AP.
Age manipulation.
Possibly via reducing his motion trought Still Force.
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No, Ben need 7 votes to abb
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I read through all args rq. And vote for Ben. Ben already has resistance to MM. Both have durability negation but Lex has LowG regen. Ben can counter this with Life ubsorption/manipulation. What are Ben's counter to death manipulation and what is the highest level of immortality/regeneration this has been shown to work on. Finally, Ben can use his power mimicry to get copy all of Lex's powers, or at very least the Martian abilities.
Might have missed some args for both sides but I don't think I missed anything, did I?
Might have missed some args for both sides but I don't think I missed anything, did I?
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Aight.
But I don't think Ben copying Martian abilities would be useful.
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Bump
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What standards are required to have this added to Ben's and Lex's profile? Would this be considered a stomp? Since Luthor only has 1 vote.
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they both has wincons so it's not a stomp
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A stomp is if Lex had 0 chances of winning the fight, which isn't the case.
Ben FRA too
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Well, Ben has 7 votes now, so I think this can be added to their profiles.
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