yhwach's tier

[Stick695]

[COLOR=rgba(0,0,0,0.870588)]i just noticed something . NEVER has yhwach mentioned that he was going to destroy the earth the only thing he said was that he was going to destroy the real world which could very likely mean the universe not once did he say that he was going to erase the earth. [/COLOR]2.p.mpcdn.net

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[Reppuzan]

@Stick

You're going to have to come up with something more concrete than that.

 

[Stick695]

@Stick
You're going to have to come up with something more concrete than that.

http://*********.com/Manga/Bleach/Chapter-523?id=281413#12 yhwach was going to destroy this.

 

[Reppuzan]

@Stick

It's a pocket dimension, not a universe. Unless you mean to imply that anyone who can exploit infinite distance is automatically universal.

 

[Stick695]

@Stick
It's a pocket dimension, not a universe. Unless you mean to imply that anyone who can exploit infinite distance is automatically universal.

isn't a pocket dimension equal to a universe? & as far as i know being capable of destroying something that is infinite can easily be looked at as universal

 

[WeeklyBattles]

No, a pocket dimension is not automatically a universe

 

[SilentBob34]

If he was going to destroy 3 worlds and combine them into 1 would that still be planet level ap? Or would it be large planet level?

 

[Stick695]

No, a pocket dimension is not automatically a universe

that pocket dimension was infinite then what would destroying an infinite pocket dimension put you at? planetary?

 

[Reppuzan]

@Stick

It's unquantifiable.

 

[Stick695]

@Stick
It's unquantifiable.

[COLOR=rgba(0,0,0,0.870588)]The Japanese uses the word Sekai when describing the "world of the living", "SS" and "Hueco Mundo".

The term Sekai can be translated as both "world" and "universe".

Depending on the context, universe can be applied here.

What we know is this. Yhwach wants to erase the 3 different dimensions. The dimension of the living, the dimension of the plus/good spirits and the dimension of the negative/bad spirits. By doing this, the infinite amount of dimensions called "Valley of Screams" would crumble and the "Dangai" aswell.

After doing this, he would recreate a dimension which has no "deaths". So a dimension which cheats death, since there would be no cycle to move the spirits to the different worlds. I highly doubt it would be just the "new" Earth. So if you go outside of Earth, you will simply die? Makes no sense to me if that was the case.[/COLOR]

 

[Reppuzan]

@Stick

Bleach has always been confined to Earth, Soul Society, and Hueco Mundo. There's no reason to assume that he'd go farther than that since he's only mentioned those three locales.

It's entirely possible to create a world without death without modifying the universe. That was goal of Goetia in Fate/Grand Order, who was going to remove the concept of death from all beings on Earth by rewriting its history.

 

[Stick695]

@Stick
Bleach has always been confined to Earth, Soul Society, and Hueco Mundo. There's no reason to assume that he'd go farther than that since he's only mentioned those three locales.

It's entirely possible to create a world without death without modifying the universe. That was goal of Goetia in Fate/Grand Order, who was going to remove the concept of death from all beings on Earth by rewriting its history.

im not talking about the earth alone im talking about the universe in bleach just like our universe

unless if the earth is the only planet that contains life in the ENTIRE universe "if" he said that he was going to remove death & make all beings immortal but who says that this goes for the earth only?

 

[Reppuzan]

@Stick

There's no indication that he was going to affect things other than Earth. He explicitly stated the human world. If there were any other planets with humans on it, we would probably know about it.

 

[Stick695]

in all those scans that were shown not once did i see earth all i saw was the real world which as i said could refer to the universe

 

[Reppuzan]

@Sticks

Could isn't good enough. We need definitive rock-hard evidence.

 

[Stick695]

@Sticks
Could isn't good enough. We need definitive rock-hard evidence.

i don't really get why his profile isn't referred to as 5b possibly 3-a tbh.... "possibly far higher" seems a little bit off to me

 

[Reppuzan]

@Stick

Because it contradicts literally everything in the series. If Yhwach was that level he could sneeze on Ichigo and kill him. It would not only throw off all of the god-tiers power scaling, but it just makes no logical sense.

 

[Stick695]

@Stick
Because it contradicts literally everything in the series. If Yhwach was that level he could sneeze on Ichigo and kill him. It would not only throw off all of the god-tiers power scaling, but it just makes no logical sense.

yhwach absorbed the soul king who was remaining the balance in all the dimensions simply by existing yhwach was fighting ichigo with his sword & the almighty i didn't see him use the soul king's power untill the end when he was going to destroy all the worlds and make a new one where everything would be immortal.

edit: i mean it was pretty obvious that yhwach was literally just toying around with ichigo untill he said that he was going to create his own world.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

This was already brought up before IIRC and was denied. So this thread should be closed.

 

[Joseph619]

Come on man Yhwach is not universal, that's some hardcore wank.

 

[Reppuzan]

@Stick

If he was universe level, breathing on Ichigo would have killed him, playing around or not. Do you understand the difference in power between Planet and Universe level?

Let me put this numerically for you. Ichigo is currently rated at moon level. Having a universe level Yhwach would make him 10^63 times stronger than him.

It's literally impossible to have Universe level Yhwach from a narrative or logical standpoint.