Yhwach's abilities

[Primaris_Brian]

Because she was able to heal ichigo's sword after tsukishima altered the past also about AppleLord post:

What the point of these heals ichigo wound again? the sword is what we need unless Ichigo to believe that if Orihime healed his sword, he would be too late to stop Yhwach and thus want to fight Yhwach empty handed...

Ichigo wounds doesn't even matter cause we can get the evidence that yhwach nullifies orihime healing from the sword.

 

[Stick695]

i love how im being ignored lol

 

[Primaris_Brian]

Don't worry, im myself has been many times being ignored during 1,5 half years my time in this wikia.

 

[Reppuzan]

@Stick

Your opinion isn't the only one that matters. I'd like to hear some more before we do anything drastic.

Also, no offense, but you have a reputation as one of the staunchest Yhwach overhypers on the wiki.

 

[Stick695]

@Stick
Your opinion isn't the only one that matters. I'd like to hear some more before we do anything drastic.

Also, no offense, but you have a reputation as one of the staunchest Yhwach overhypers on the wiki.

"Orihime didn't heal Ichigo because the latter was rushing ahead out of her range since he wanted to stop Yhwach."

https://gyazo.com/e1b0e1fe317c2dece312923257738ff0

"rushing"

you only mentioned applelord & were completely ignoring my comments.

people trash talk me in comments because i say yhwach can kill goku which he can since he can negate durability so idk if im actually "overhyping" or just stating facts.

 

[Primaris_Brian]

Alright let not bring goku on here.

 

[Reppuzan]

You also punctuate nearly every Yhwach thread with "lol Almighty negs" while paying little attention to any other argument.

I am not letting this devolve into a series of ad hominem attacks. So moving on.

I'm well aware of the Tsukishima past-insertion, but I'm not sure if whether or not that event means that Yhwach's Fate Manipulation > Orihime's Causality Manipulation (entirely possible) or if Yhwach also has Causality Manipulation (also possible).

 

[LordGriffin1000]

So what's the most likely choice? I know all are possible I'm just wondering if one is more likely then the others.

 

[Reppuzan]

@LordGriffin

The first requires the least number of assumptions, since Orihime has shown limits in the past and Yhwach has explicitly called his ability one that manipulates fate rather than causality.

I'm inclined to lean towards this explanation.

 

[Stick695]

Yhwach breaking ichigo's sword had nothing to do with his fate manipulation though, specifically stated that he broke it through the future.

https://gyazo.com/676643495aab03f2640da0925292376a

https://gyazo.com/a4b9984cd1431fe9c9d272ed0c80acd0

yhwach was talking about ichigo constantly being able to overcome obstacles & enemies

https://gyazo.com/b6987dc5c89b26a52d875b0a6aaffeef

& that he wasn't able to do it again just because yhwach is there now.

 

[Reppuzan]

"Hey may have rewritten the future with such an immense power that you're not capable of "rejecting" it with yours."

Yhwach rewrites fate more powerfully than Orihime can deal. Nothing about causality here.

"All I can do is influence and change... the entirety of fate that I see in mine."

Again, Fate, nothing about causality.

Orihime can't reject the future with her Causality Manipulation since Yhwach's Fate Manipulation is far more powerful.

This is the most logical explanation with the fewest number of assumptions.

 

[Stick695]

the only thing i agree with that AppleLord said is "What Yhwach needs is Casuality Manipulation. That which he destroys with his Almighty can't be undone, unless the past is change."

 

[Stick695]

exactly rewriten, fate wasn't mentioned "rewritten the future, not manipulated fate.

"All I can do is influence and change... the entirety of fate that I see in mine"

"again fate" this is the only time he mentions this. he mentioned him being able to alter/rewrite the future 10 times more

orihime can't reject it because yhwach's causality manipulation overpowered hers.

can't heal anything that yhwach has damaged with the almighty unless if the past is changed.

 

[Davidsteel1]

@Stick u keep insisting on causality manipulation when Repp has established that the more likely explanation is actually fate manipulation. My question is why? Yhwach never at any point in all his gloating refers to his power manipulating cause and effect, he either refers to it as manipulating "fate" or changing the future. And considering the definitions of both fate and causality, fate is far closer in definition to manipulating the future than causality is. So where does causality come into play at all?

 

[Reppuzan]

@Stick

Again, the key word is fate. There is no mention of causality. Yhwach's powers of Fate trumped Orihime's ability to reject it. Hence it's far less speculative to say that he has Fate Manipulation over Causality Manipulation.

 

[Stick695]

lul just took a look at probabilty manipulation as well, The user manipulates the probability of an event to happen, making unlikely things occur more often or instantly and preventing liable events from happening. They can cause and prevent both good and bad luck, sudden deaths, natural disasters, and even apocalyptic events. Pretty much the almighty.

 

[Reppuzan]

@Stick

Except once again, it mentions controlling fate, not probability. You're extrapolating too deeply to get the results you want.

If there's nothing else to add, I'm closing this, adding Fate Manipulation to the profile, and being done with this topic.

 

[Stick695]

kinda telling me that's it's basically all the same shit lol.

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Sounding the same=/=Exactly the same.

Anyway I agree with the Fate Manipulation.

 

[Primaris_Brian]

This is not going to end well..

 

[Reppuzan]

@Stick

And you've just proven to me that there's nothing left to add.

Closing this.