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Years of Training Comes Down to This...: Yuma Myotis Vs. Mitt (D&D Homebrew Vs. The Shoobieverse)

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Rules:
Yuma will have only 3 daggers. Otherwise, standard equipment will be used.
Speed Equalized, SBA Applies


Notes:
Yuma has a 1.6x AP advantage
Yuma has the Range advantage
Yuma technically has the IQ and Combat IQ advantages


Mitt has the Stamina Advantage
Mitt has the Lifting Strength Advantage
 
I was hoping that you would start, I'm awful at starting vs threads 😅
I will say Yuma would most likely start of the fight swiftly but very thoughtfully. or stealth if it seems possible. She would probably set up her illusions in pretty decent ways too saying she would know how to use them. either way she would make sure her first hit poisons them, as to make the fight on a timer in her favor
 
I will say Yuma would most likely start of the fight swiftly but very thoughtfully. or stealth if it seems possible. She would probably set up her illusions in pretty decent ways too saying she would know how to use them. either way she would make sure her first hit poisons them, as to make the fight on a timer in her favor
Wait...Poison?-

For the sake of not having the fight be a stomp, Yuma doesn't have her poison here...just daggers 😅

The illusions would 100% be an issue (even without noise), but how potent are these illusions? And, what feats put her at extraordinary genius IQ? :0
 
Wait...Poison?-

For the sake of not having the fight be a stomp, Yuma doesn't have her poison here...just daggers 😅

The illusions would 100% be an issue (even without noise), but how potent are these illusions? And, what feats put her at extraordinary genius IQ? :0
She basically has done mostly nothing but read and train for thousands of years has been seen to pick up very quickly on magical and non magical items and once somehow perfectly controlled a futuristic panel after a quick glance. the illusions can only be five feet wide and tall but can be whatever mostly
 
She basically has done mostly nothing but read and train for thousands of years has been seen to pick up very quickly on magical and non magical items and once somehow perfectly controlled a futuristic panel after a quick glance. the illusions can only be five feet wide and tall but can be whatever mostly
That seems to be about Gifted-Genius range, given Omni-Man's IQ status as gifted with 2000+ years of training and Light Yagami's listed Genius IQ which seems to be somewhat comparable to what she could do...still much smarter than Mitt, but not with that high IQ 😅

Since the illusions are 5x5 feet, what would she use them for in terms of trying to distract/harm Mitt? Is she able to see past her own illusions to do so? (It seems like an illusion cube based off of what you've said-)
 
That seems to be about Gifted-Genius range, given Omni-Man's IQ status as gifted with 2000+ years of training and Light Yagami's listed Genius IQ which seems to be somewhat comparable to what she could do...still much smarter than Mitt, but not with that high IQ 😅

Since the illusions are 5x5 feet, what would she use them for in terms of trying to distract/harm Mitt? Is she able to see past her own illusions to do so? (It seems like an illusion cube based off of what you've said-)
the Intelligence thing is mostly from the fact she hasn't gotten into a situation where she hasnt at least known a LITTLE bit about something, but its more of a out of battle iq for that sorta thing i just dont seperate catagories (She was my first page on the wiki ill update it at some point soon) But yeah that range would make sense for combat iq
 
Anyway i think its fair to Say Yuma would win? Mitt could stall her out and win that way but she does have better abilities overall
 
Anyway i think its fair to Say Yuma would win? Mitt could stall her out and win that way but she does have better abilities overall
Well...kinda? I wouldn't've done the match if it were to be a blatant win in Yuma's favor, so I have a few counterarguments:
-While this is simply presumed by me (given that she only has 3 daggers here), It's only her illusions that reach hundreds of meters...right? If so, then she's limited to standard melee range (As the knife is the closest VSBW counterpart), except while throwing them (which are limited since there's only 3 daggers), while Mitt has extended melee range via his longsword
-Speaking of her illusions...given the speed equalization rules, the speed both combatants will be going at is 172.1 m/s (as explained here)...Mitt's usual tactic is simply running without stopping while also trying to attack (unless pressured by an equal weapon) so he's going to pass any of those illusions before he even notices he's in them, especially since there's no noise attached :0
-Her AP is wall level...but her striking strength is athlete level (10-A), which makes any physical hits mostly useless...she'll have to rely on the daggers to hurt Mitt, and it seems as though the only way she can reach 9-B strength is with her magic missile (which is a guaranteed hit, however it can only be used once)
 
Well...kinda? I wouldn't've done the match if it were to be a blatant win in Yuma's favor, so I have a few counterarguments:
-While this is simply presumed by me (given that she only has 3 daggers here), It's only her illusions that reach hundreds of meters...right? If so, then she's limited to standard melee range (As the knife is the closest VSBW counterpart), except while throwing them (which are limited since there's only 3 daggers), while Mitt has extended melee range via his longsword
-Speaking of her illusions...given the speed equalization rules, the speed both combatants will be going at is 172.1 m/s (as explained here)...Mitt's usual tactic is simply running without stopping while also trying to attack (unless pressured by an equal weapon) so he's going to pass any of those illusions before he even notices he's in them, especially since there's no noise attached :0
-Her AP is wall level...but her striking strength is athlete level (10-A), which makes any physical hits mostly useless...she'll have to rely on the daggers to hurt Mitt, and it seems as though the only way she can reach 9-B strength is with her magic missile (which is a guaranteed hit, however it can only be used once)
OH, as i mentioned she was my first page ive made but the striking strength section was taken literally as in "How much she could literally punch for" The higher Attack potency is her with any sort of one handed weapon. and with how unnaturally good at stealth she is she could probably find an opportunity to hide especially with the illusions around he'd definitely have ways to damage her and fend her off for a bit, but i think it's inevitable that she closes the distance or lands a throw of the knife. Once they are forced to fight back it wouldnt be easy for her to win but she has a clear advantage from that front
 
OH, as i mentioned she was my first page ive made but the striking strength section was taken literally as in "How much she could literally punch for" The higher Attack potency is her with any sort of one handed weapon. and with how unnaturally good at stealth she is she could probably find an opportunity to hide especially with the illusions around he'd definitely have ways to damage her and fend her off for a bit, but i think it's inevitable that she closes the distance or lands a throw of the knife. Once they are forced to fight back it wouldnt be easy for her to win but she has a clear advantage from that front
NYC's central park is pretty open, all things considered...the most she's gonna find is hiding under a bridge, and even though it's in character for her to simply hide from her opponents Mitt is in no way that attentive...He'd probably just sit and wait or something of the like. And even if so, she's gonna need to see the dude to use her illusions, and getting up close is going to give her 1 attack before Mitt notices that she's there. To her credit, however, via SBA they start 100 meters apart, so she'd have time to hide if that was the case :0

He's going to run through the illusions pretty much instantly...and I doubt that Yuma would throw her daggers with her intelligence, she only has 3 and if she loses them all then she's reduced to 10-A strength. This wasn't listed on the page either...usually it's listed like "10-A, 9-B with equipment". Plus, what's saying that she gets a 9-B rating with a dagger? usually it's 9-C, higher with piercing damage, and her AP lists her being able to crush both skulls and people...this just gives her a higher LS rather than an AP feat (I think it's peak human? Regardless, it's in references for common feats somewhere) :u
 
NYC's central park is pretty open, all things considered...the most she's gonna find is hiding under a bridge, and even though it's in character for her to simply hide from her opponents Mitt is in no way that attentive...He'd probably just sit and wait or something of the like. And even if so, she's gonna need to see the dude to use her illusions, and getting up close is going to give her 1 attack before Mitt notices that she's there. To her credit, however, via SBA they start 100 meters apart, so she'd have time to hide if that was the case :0

He's going to run through the illusions pretty much instantly...and I doubt that Yuma would throw her daggers with her intelligence, she only has 3 and if she loses them all then she's reduced to 10-A strength. This wasn't listed on the page either...usually it's listed like "10-A, 9-B with equipment". Plus, what's saying that she gets a 9-B rating with a dagger? usually it's 9-C, higher with piercing damage, and her AP lists her being able to crush both skulls and people...this just gives her a higher LS rather than an AP feat (I think it's peak human? Regardless, it's in references for common feats somewhere) :u
a lot of things on the page are semi-incorrectly formatted just due to it being old. Either way though she should be able to bite as its her main attacking method and that DOES say its minimum higher than wall level
 
a lot of things on the page are semi-incorrectly formatted just due to it being old. Either way though she should be able to bite as its her main attacking method and that DOES say its minimum higher than wall level
But is her immediate method of attacking typically biting? Even if it is, biting Mitt requires her to be in close-range, AND it requires her to keep her face wherever she bit Mitt until she lets go...this is going to leave her heavily susceptible to attacks, and she's not going to know that it's only that which can harm Mitt (no prior knowledge). Plus, if she has to shapeshift into a bat to bite Mitt, she's going to have to drop all 3 of her daggers, an AP disadvantage she can't afford (but then again doesn't know about, so she may do that) :3
 
But is her immediate method of attacking typically biting? Even if it is, biting Mitt requires her to be in close-range, AND it requires her to keep her face wherever she bit Mitt until she lets go...this is going to leave her heavily susceptible to attacks, and she's not going to know that it's only that which can harm Mitt (no prior knowledge). Plus, if she has to shapeshift into a bat to bite Mitt, she's going to have to drop all 3 of her daggers, an AP disadvantage she can't afford (but then again doesn't know about, so she may do that) :3
Oh, as a dnd character her daggers (and other larger items) Inexplicably stay on her. so that wouldnt be a problem, and thats again implying they dont have a pretty fair fight then once they are both injured Yuma just magic missle's to finish them off, she also usually gets a rapier but i wont account for that. Either way they arent immune to mental manipulation either so if it really comes to it she does have telepathy and could use that as a good overwhelming method. Either way one of her usual strats is to drop in on people and latch onto them then stab them repeatedly, and with the ap advantage she should be able to kill them before they kill her especially with the blood draining happening
 
Oh, as a dnd character her daggers (and other larger items) Inexplicably stay on her. so that wouldnt be a problem, and thats again implying they dont have a pretty fair fight then once they are both injured Yuma just magic missle's to finish them off, she also usually gets a rapier but i wont account for that. Either way they arent immune to mental manipulation either so if it really comes to it she does have telepathy and could use that as a good overwhelming method. Either way one of her usual strats is to drop in on people and latch onto them then stab them repeatedly, and with the ap advantage she should be able to kill them before they kill her especially with the blood draining happening
The telepathy is an overwhelming method?!?-

Before I continue, I'd like to know if Yuma has to be a bat while biting :3
 
The telepathy is an overwhelming method?!?-

Before I continue, I'd like to know if Yuma has to be a bat while biting :3
no she doesnt NEED to be, she can but most the time it is just a tall ahh adult woman monching someone, people dont question it somehow
 
no she doesnt NEED to be, she can but most the time it is just a tall ahh adult woman monching someone, people dont question it somehow
So then there's 2 issues that come from it...If she is a bat, then it's going to be much harder for Mitt to grab her. However, she-

Oh, as a dnd character her daggers (and other larger items) Inexplicably stay on her.
oh. There's a lot of stuff you're mentioning here that isn't listed on the page at all :/

Anyways, if she is a bat she won't be able to hold the knife. However, if she isn't a bat, she's going to be a much easier target for Mitt to grab and harm. Regardless, I doubt that she'd be able to stay on Mitt for any more than 5 seconds before she's thrown off one way or another. However, this would weaken Mitt :0

Despite her stealth mastery, it's still going to be hard to sneak up on the dude while he's moving, specifically to central park's more open nature :3
 
Well even without all that she should be able to win a straight 1 on 1 right? Yuma is a very Patient woman (Kinda comes with the whole living thousands of years thing) so if she needs to wait for him to start fighting her she will and when they do she does have most of the advantages other than range, which her intelligence should more than make up for, also the stuff i didnt mention is gameplay mechanics, i made the incorrect assumption people would know them when i made the page :3
 
Well even without all that she should be able to win a straight 1 on 1 right? Yuma is a very Patient woman (Kinda comes with the whole living thousands of years thing) so if she needs to wait for him to start fighting her she will and when they do she does have most of the advantages other than range, which her intelligence should more than make up for,
Well...despite the IQ being under fire, she'd still be smarter than Mitt as a baseline. The issue is coming from the fact that her 9-B rating comes from LS feats rather than AP feats, so it's likely that she'd only be 9-B with specific moves rather than 9-B by herself...this is something that would be a huge advantage for Mitt :0
 
Well...despite the IQ being under fire, she'd still be smarter than Mitt as a baseline. The issue is coming from the fact that her 9-B rating comes from LS feats rather than AP feats, so it's likely that she'd only be 9-B with specific moves rather than 9-B by herself...this is something that would be a huge advantage for Mitt :0
well she is still 9-B ap wise, it does say she broke a centaurs bones, which is in the ap section so even without regarding my intent (cuz obviously i know my intent was that means she did it by attacking them) its assumed it would be an attack
 
well she is still 9-B ap wise, it does say she broke a centaurs bones, which is in the ap section so even without regarding my intent (cuz obviously i know my intent was that means she did it by attacking them) its assumed it would be an attack
Breaking a bone maxes out at 9-C strength. Breaking necks is 10-A, and-

Well, I got good news for ya! Crushing an entire human scales to 3 megajoules of force and Class K LS, so I would like to mark my argument as void and give Yuma the dub here due to her heavy AP advantage :3

For future reference though, please look at references for common feats if you want calculations...and if you have any feats that aren't listed, just drop a request here and I'll see what I can do to calculate it :]

And if you're looking for another match, I can put Yuma against both of the 9-B's I mentioned earlier now that she has a calculation attached :>
 
Breaking a bone maxes out at 9-C strength. Breaking necks is 10-A, and-

Well, I got good news for ya! Crushing an entire human scales to 3 megajoules of force and Class K LS, so I would like to mark my argument as void and give Yuma the dub here due to her heavy AP advantage :3

For future reference though, please look at references for common feats if you want calculations...and if you have any feats that aren't listed, just drop a request here and I'll see what I can do to calculate it :]

And if you're looking for another match, I can put Yuma against both of the 9-B's I mentioned earlier now that she has a calculation attached :>
I will also say Yuma, AND i'll get around to polishing her page more to my modern standards. THANKIES for the criticism on it btw
 
BUNP because i dont wanna change her page until after this is finished because it would be weird too
 
FLIPLA, LIGHTS, CAMERA, GRACE THIS SHIT!!!
I got good news for you too...Mitt's calculation was wrong and scales to 808 Kilojoules (or so), so this isn't a stomp and can be added to pages! Just let me know when you've done so :D

Grace!
 
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