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the timeframe is between a blink and a few seconds, with a blink being more accurate because the second image most likely is the same time but different people.
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would this be FTL
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I don't see anything that suggests the total travel time took place in the blink of an eye.
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I am not a calc guy so this might be wrong and this calc assumes that it happens in a blink
The distance from earth to moon is about 384,400 km or 384,400,000 m
And a human takes around 100 to 150 millisecond to blink once
So 384,400,000/.15=2562666666.67 m/s
And the speed of light is 299 792 458 m/s
So seems to be ftl
The distance from earth to moon is about 384,400 km or 384,400,000 m
And a human takes around 100 to 150 millisecond to blink once
So 384,400,000/.15=2562666666.67 m/s
And the speed of light is 299 792 458 m/s
So seems to be ftl
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but the people in the picture can't react to the speed of the character... taking into account the reaction speed of the average person, so as if ftl is coming out of it.
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i think i would do it like this;
Average Reaction Time = 0.215 seconds
384,400,000 m / 0.215 s = 1,787,906,976.74418604651162790697 m/s , 5.96381572996137897008x or FTL
Average Reaction Time = 0.215 seconds
384,400,000 m / 0.215 s = 1,787,906,976.74418604651162790697 m/s , 5.96381572996137897008x or FTL
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Travelling faster than eyesight is immensely slower than travelling faster than light.
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so average human reaction rates don't work when character is the speed of light or something else? (for the calc to made a velocity)
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his travel all throughout the book is always instant and is shown to be in the blink of an eye. and he also reacts to laser, specifically also ones he initially didn't see. so being above light isn't inconsistent.
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i understand the first arguement, but the lasers were specifically mentioned to be light, in the official translations as well there are also mutlipe scenes where it is specifically not aim-dodging by any means
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In this case they are light speed but yeah reacting to them by itself isn't ftl
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it looks way more like he flew, considering he broke the ground he was standing on
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and when he came back he also caused an explosion, something not present from teleportation
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i have to go so i wont be able to respond for a little bit, at most 4 hours.
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since the implication is that he went there super quickly, I think 5 to 1 seconds could work, is not like the humans could see him close to the moon so him leaving their sight wouldn't mean much.
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I dont think it is teleportation, that being said its not ftl either. Humans can not see very far so all he needs to do is travel outside of their sight range in a short timeframe. However the entire feat assuming those scans are right after each other seems to have been done in a short timeframe. So I can see a few seconds being used for the time frame.
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Is definitely relativistic at minimum, and those laser dodging could be worth too if there is more evidence of lightspeed besides just being called a laser
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they were called lightspeed in the official manga, and i have more feats of him reacting to lasers. in the movie he reacts to lasers he definitely didn't see and he reacts to multiple lasers(the ones confirmed lightspeed) and reacted to them, and it did not look like aim dodging
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it meets more than 2 of those, it never bends, and is stated by the esper children to be made out of light.
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Not bending isn't one of them, it's several of these five that it needs to meet.
- The beam refracts in a new material, such as a liquid or...
- The beam diffuses in a reasonably realistic way or reflects off a material that it can be expected to, such as a non-magical mirror.
- The beam is called lightspeed by reliable sources.
- It is stated to be composed/consisting of photons or light itself, again by a reliable source.
- It has its origin at a realistic source of light, such as a camera.
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it was said to be and i quote(i have the official translation on me) "we need something fast... a beam of light.."
so it was stated to be made up of light and be lightspeed, and the laser gun just seems like a really powrful normal laser, as it can be shown burning things. so we have the evidence of it being a real laser here
- Stated to be light
- this also means it travels at lightspeed
- and is a realistic source, as it never "breaks" things, but simply burns through them implying its just a really powerful laser
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How exactly does that quote translate to the beam being lightspeed?
All you've shown so far is that it's called light, literally the weakest evidence when it comes to proving a beam is lightspeed.
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im saying its called light, in the context that they needed something fast, and the fact that he already has a relativistic feat its not really inconsistent. i will read through the manga again to find so more info maybe. also if something is light it travels at lightspeed right? or am i missing something
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That isn't how it works here
All you have is the attack being referred to as light, nothing more, and that's nowhere near enough for it to be accepted as lightspeed.
Not here it doesn't, it takes far more than that here for a beam to be accepted as lightspeed.
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Is because being made of light doesn't always means it is pure enough to have lightspeed since it can be altered and not behave like it anymore, which is why we need like 3 or 4 of the criteria meet.
Although tbf if the context is them needing something fast and specifically choosing light, it sounds like it could be lightspeed, where does those lasers come from?
Although tbf if the context is them needing something fast and specifically choosing light, it sounds like it could be lightspeed, where does those lasers come from?
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could this be light refracting through the smoke?
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now that i look at it more, it more seems like the laser is shining/cutting through the smoke
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Bump
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since this derailed hard and we are talking about speed and the page for this character in general, should i move this discussion to a general thread about akira?
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bump
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Bumper bumpity bumperson
