Would this be a 2-C feat? (Bleach)

[Triumphs8512]

I was reading Bleach CFYOW novels and came across this.

When they are in one of the Kyogoku, Yukio is stated to create a rift in space-time. Wouldn't this prove that the Kyogoku are 4D constructs as their made of Space-Time? And if it does wouldn't this make the Garganta 2-C as it holds multiple kyogoku?

 

[Urshani]

Yes

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Are the Kyogoku all universal in size? Otherwise it wouldn't be 2-C for containing multiple Kyogoku.

 

[PrinceofPein]

When they are in one of the Kyogoku, Yukio is stated to create a rift in space-time.

Wouldn't this prove that the Kyogoku are 4D constructs as their made of Space-Time?

well not

And if it does wouldn't this make the Garganta 2-C as it holds multiple kyogoku?

it will make the Garganta 3A or H3A, as it is just a larger 4D construct holding other 4D construct (ss and wotl)

 

[Teezar]

I was reading Bleach CFYOW novels and came across this.

When they are in one of the Kyogoku, Yukio is stated to create a rift in space-time. Wouldn't this prove that the Kyogoku are 4D constructs as their made of Space-Time? And if it does wouldn't this make the Garganta 2-C as it holds multiple kyogoku?

Yeah.

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

Are the Kyogoku all universal in size? Otherwise it wouldn't be 2-C for containing multiple Kyogoku.

they vary in size

 

[Reio35]

Nope it's only solar system size

 

[AKUTO123]

well not

it will make the Garganta 3A or H3A, as it is just a larger 4D construct holding other 4D construct (ss and wotl)

This is low 2C

 

[PrinceofPein]

This is low 2C

i am talking about the space destruction

 

[Triumphs8512]

well not

it will make the Garganta 3A or H3A, as it is just a larger 4D construct holding other 4D construct (ss and wotl)

Anything 4D and above would High 3-A.

 

[Triumphs8512]

Are the Kyogoku all universal in size? Otherwise it wouldn't be 2-C for containing multiple Kyogoku.

They wouldn't need to be
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affecting a space that possesses multiple space-time continuums is 2-C.

Any 4D space and/or construct is a space-time continuum. So having multiple 4D spaces within a space regardless of their size would be 2-C

 

[LordGriffin1000]

They wouldn't need to be
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affecting a space that possesses multiple space-time continuums is 2-C.

Any 4D space and/or construct is a space-time continuum. So having multiple 4D spaces within a space regardless of their size would be 2-C

Yes they do.

You clearly didn't read the Tiering System Page correctly, look at what is says about Low 2-C before 2-C.

Low 2-C | Universe level+: Characters who are capable of significantly affecting[1], creating and/or destroying an area of space that is qualitatively larger than an infinitely-sized 3-dimensional space. Common fictional examples of spaces representing such sizes are space-time continuums (the entire past, present and future of 3-dimensional space) of a universal scale.

Space-time continuum is treated as 4-D Universe sized dimensional space. So obviously for 2-C, they need to be Universe sized constructs as well. Size matters, so unless you provide evidence that they are universal in size, it doesn't count as 2-C.

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Anything 4D and above would High 3-A.

You forgot to add in the rest of the text...

However, it can be more generally fulfilled by any 4-dimensional space that is either:

A) Equivalent to a large extra dimensional space. That is, a higher-dimensional "bulk" space which embeds lower-dimensional ones (Such as our universe) as subsets of itself, whose dimensions are not microscopic / compactified.

B) Portrayed as completely transcending lower-dimensional objects and spaces in the setting of a given work of fiction.

Those 4-D Dimensional Space need to be large extra dimensional space that embodies lower-dimensional ones such as our universe which the one you listed in the op does not. It also must be completely transcendent to lower-dimensional objects as said in the A example which the one listed in the OP does not.

 

[Urshani]

Yes they do.

You clearly didn't read the Tiering System Page correctly, look at what is says about Low 2-C before 2-C.

Low 2-C | Universe level+: Characters who are capable of significantly affecting[1], creating and/or destroying an area of space that is qualitatively larger than an infinitely-sized 3-dimensional space. Common fictional examples of spaces representing such sizes are space-time continuums (the entire past, present and future of 3-dimensional space) of a universal scale.

Space-time continuum is treated as 4-D Universe sized dimensional space. So obviously for 2-C, they need to be Universe sized constructs as well. Size matters, so unless you provide evidence that they are universal in size, it doesn't count as 2-C.

no they need to be seperate in size, disconnected,

 

[LordGriffin1000]

no they need to be seperate in size, disconnected,

What? They don't need to be a universal size distance away from each other? They need to be in separate space and time along with being universal in size.

My comment is referring to the argument from the OP that size doesn't. I was simply explaining that it does and for something to qualify as a Space-time continuum, it needs to be universal in size. Obviously other requirements are needed but my comment was referring to a specific point.

Anyway... the Kyogoku do not qualify as space-time continuum so I'm closing this.