why would exist before something grants you anything?

[eibwen]

As far as i'm concerned, just existing predate to anything doesnt make you uneffect to it at all, at best it shows that you once were independent by it. And when I reading vsb threads I see people understands this
However, there were also some stuff like

• concept exist before world means it is CM1 (as mentioned above, the independency should only be temporal, no?)
• existing before existence makes you a non existence (meaning your existence is independent, and I do be talking about this exact situation with this exact wording) if there were more context, then something like this should be worded differently, no?

for all that matter, stuff like that makes off site debate so weird