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Why is Goku Universal?
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Umm yes it has been.Wanderex said:
First Form Frieza blows up Planet Vegeta with his Finger.
Final Form Frieza hits Goku with punches and energy blasts that are factually greater than his first form's Supernova.
Goku tanks them and even overpowers them.
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That is an immense logical fallacy. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.Wanderex said:
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In Dragon BallWanderex said:
Planet Busting ball = Punches
Objective Fact.
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Shaking calced at Tier 3. Feat stated by multiple reliable sources to be destroying the universe along with later feats being consistent with it. Such as Beerus and Champa fighting busting 2 universes.Wanderex said:
Objective fact.
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I smell a troll thread
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I guess earthquakes must be pretty weak then.
Also, stop using destructive capacity. It's not a term we frequently use here.
Also, stop using destructive capacity. It's not a term we frequently use here.
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Once again, you are using DC and not AP. DC=/=AP. Read our Attack Potency page please.
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Puts two ki blasts together and recreates what he did in BoG. Does whatever Kefla could've done to destroy the universe in one shot.
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@Wanderex
The shockwaves traveling doesn't jack shit when only 3 clashes would destroy the entire universe. Every person that has stated that they would destroy the universe has not shown any form of sarcasm at all. Even the narrator himself stated it. The fact that we get even more universal feats later on in the series solidifies Goku's tier when he's capable of fighting those that can do things on that level.
The shockwaves traveling doesn't jack shit when only 3 clashes would destroy the entire universe. Every person that has stated that they would destroy the universe has not shown any form of sarcasm at all. Even the narrator himself stated it. The fact that we get even more universal feats later on in the series solidifies Goku's tier when he's capable of fighting those that can do things on that level.
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Ever heard of an earthquake?Wanderex said:
And they use their ki, the thing that the planet busting beam is made of, to enhance their striking strength and durability.
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That video blatantly shows him holding back Frieza's planet busting attack. Directed or not, it's the feat you've been asking for.Wanderex said:
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@Theglassman12 Yes, i call this bias. Once again, normal human could react to them which means that they were moving at incredibly slow speeds. Thats like saying i can take down every single building in a city with a hammer. It would take me decades to do so, but i wont be at city level.
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@Wanderex show me proof that this is bias, and not just us looking through their feats and determining which is more consistent. And where did I ever mention speed at all in my paragraph?
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Wandere is your logic so small that everyone needs a microscope to see it because everyone isnt seeing it.
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Wanderex said:
This looks like a punch to me.
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"Clearly Redircting"
That's clearly a punch.
"why do you bother doing something when you can dodge?"
Why dodge when you can punch it away?
That's clearly a punch.
"why do you bother doing something when you can dodge?"
Why dodge when you can punch it away?
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If you can redirect an attack that blasts planets to dust by punching it, and your arms don't get disintegrated, that not only counts as an AP feat, but also as an durability feat
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Read this....AKM sama said:
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Goku & Beerus shockwaves = stated Universal by just about everyone important AND THE NARRATOR HIMSELF
Goku's feats at some points after this = Universal
So no, not an "assumption" or a hyperbole.
Here, let me give you an example from an entirely different franchise that you're not going to understand as to why DC =/= AP. Winx Club characters only have "Destructive Capability" feats on only wall to small building levels. But saying they stop at this is pretty much downplay, because numerous statements (lore mainly) give characters at least Universal, if not Multiversal (from something me and a few people will make a CRT on) levels of power. And there's feats that apply this level to not be an "assumption".
Goku's only difference? That the statements are stated at that point, rather than in lore.
I don't even know why I'm even posting here, but here you go.
Goku's feats at some points after this = Universal
So no, not an "assumption" or a hyperbole.
Here, let me give you an example from an entirely different franchise that you're not going to understand as to why DC =/= AP. Winx Club characters only have "Destructive Capability" feats on only wall to small building levels. But saying they stop at this is pretty much downplay, because numerous statements (lore mainly) give characters at least Universal, if not Multiversal (from something me and a few people will make a CRT on) levels of power. And there's feats that apply this level to not be an "assumption".
Goku's only difference? That the statements are stated at that point, rather than in lore.
I don't even know why I'm even posting here, but here you go.
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So something that has never happened is a feat, not an assumption? Once again, Buu said he is omnipotent. We either accept or dont accept statements. Considering a statement for something serious and not a hyperbole, when somebody in the series already claimed he is omnipotent- now thats an assumption.
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